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549 days ago.
by absolem
Kendall78
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Executive Orders: Good, bad or depends?

In recent months there have been a lot of discussion about the President and his use of Executive Orders. The question is, are Executive Orders a good thing or bad? If one party within Congress is hindering government so badly, is the President correct to use the Executive Order to go around them?

 
 

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mythravere

Fox News Graphic Looks A Lot Like BioShock Infinite

Google that little gem. That shows pretty conclusively how utterly stupid Fox News is.

They don't get the irony in it at all. LOL!!!

Posted 784 days ago.

mythravere

Man all they have is hurling insults.

They have such a simple one track train of thought.

But thats what you get when you firmly plant your head in your behind all the while drinking the Republican kool-aid.

Posted 784 days ago.

Kendall78

You are humorous Tired. Call me Jimmy..call me ginger...call me carrot. Keep them coming because all it shows is you have nothing to offer up but name calling.

I really don't care if you know my name or what my hair color is. But do you care if we know your real name or your physical description? Ah..I think you do. ;)

Posted 785 days ago.

Kendall78

Actually the Executive Order is allowed and has been used all the way back to the days of Washington. I think if it was not then the Supreme Court would have done something about it.

Posted 785 days ago.

AuburnMountaineer

Executive orders are a violation of the Constitution, no matter the justification given. Congress makes the laws. The Ececutive Breach executes those laws passed by Congress. This Administration decides which laws to enforce and which ones not to. Immigration is the prime example.

Posted 785 days ago.

Kendall78

"you support the Marxist actions of obama. No more proof needed."

I don't support any Marxist actions Ithink. You failed. Try actually using proof next time.

"than a thousand unimportant trivial decisions. The number does not matter."

That's odd because most people seem to be upset that Obama is going around Congress. They don't seem to care the reason why he is going around them. Even the Congressmen on Fox News seem upset just because he is using the Executive Order and not for the reasons of why he is using it.

Posted 785 days ago.

Kendall78

Lol Tired...I know you don't think. If you did then you could tell me what "marxist bent" I have.

Posted 785 days ago.

Kendall, you support the Marxist actions of obama. No more proof needed.

One action of a president which changes the course of America, is far more significant than a thousand unimportant trivial decisions. The number does not matter.

Posted 785 days ago.

Kendall78

I don't need to, you have just shown you don't have anything on me to imply I have a "Marxist bent" on anything.

Posted 785 days ago.

Kendall78

I would still like you to tell me what my "Marxist bent" is. Otherwise you seem to commiting libel against me.

Posted 785 days ago.

Kendall78

"It's supply and demand you must deal with both sides of the equation."

I have said nothing that goes against this. I agree with your comment. My only critique is where the moral blame is greatest and I put more of the blame for the situation on our Govt and companies than the illegals.

Posted 785 days ago.

Kendall78

"Companies that hire illegals don't create illegals"

Perhaps not but they are offer incentive for illegals to come here. And you have to admit...those illegals are working and probabaly harder than your average US citizen.

Posted 785 days ago.

Kendall78

"Yeah Kendall we know your Marxist bent"

Really? How about you tell me because I am unaware of it. Please...do tell.

Posted 785 days ago.

Kendall78

"If there were not law breaking immigrants there would be none to hire"

That's why a better border would be nice and if employers would just not hire them.

Of course, how many private US citizens also hire them for cheap labor? They would be as guilty as anyone else.

Posted 785 days ago.

Kendall78

There are realstic limits to what the average person can do. Most of the people from Central America heading this way have virtually no power in their own nations.

Posted 785 days ago.

Kendall78

"where does this honor begin to form?"

Honor begins with wanting to improve one's own life. I'll never fault those who are wanting to come here for a better life but I will fault those who give these people the way to violate the law.

It might make us pay double for our produce and other goods, but I still say they should hammer those that hire illegal immigrants. $10K fine everytime it's discovered a business has hired an illegal. Kick out mayors that won't listen to the Federal Govt and won't enforce the laws. Remove Govs who won't enforce the laws.

The illegal immigrants are the least to blame for this issue.

Posted 785 days ago.

Kendall78

"It's not the number of orders but the context and subject that is important."

You mean like orders that seizes western lands without getting congressional approval?

Posted 785 days ago.

Kendall78

It's also worth noting that the 2 Presidents that have a lower Executive Order count were both one term (or less in Ford's case) Presidents.

Unless I am mistaken, President Obama is on his way to becoming the lowest Executive Order issuing two-term President since the Civil War.

Posted 785 days ago.

Kendall78

Perhaps but it's highly doubtful that the vast majority of them will stay there or want to.

Back on the main topic, many people say that President Obama is trying to be "King" Obama with his use of the Executive Order. The problem is that Obama is no where close to using the Executive Order as much as other Presidents in the past 100 years.

From 1908-2008 there have been 19 Presidents. Only 2 of those Presidents (George H.W. Bush & Gerald Ford) issued less Executive Orders than Obama has so far. To get caught up to the legendary Reagan, he would have to issue another 199 Executive Orders. Considering that Obama is averaging 30-31 Executive Orders per year...I doubt he will make it.

Posted 785 days ago.

Kendall78

That could be one of our nation's unofficial mottos.

Posted 785 days ago.
 
 
 
 

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