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228 days ago.
by Ohwiseone
harryanderson
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Conservatives aren't racist, but there is a problem

Kendall says most conservatives aren’t racist. That’s true, in my experience. Almost all my friends are conservative. I have some friends who express racist attitudes, but those same friends don’t espouse small-government conservative principles. I do see a problem with the conservative media. In their eagerness to advance their cause, they often don’t use wisdom when they promote someone. Case in point: Cliven Bundy.

 
 

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Kendall78

"Shall I quote all the dems that voiced support???? Naaaa, you can do that yourself."

Couldn't find any. Guess you failed.

Posted 426 days ago.

Kendall78

You just don't understand any of it do you.

Every single example you have given isn't the equal of what Bundy was.

Not one of your examples was lifted up so quickly and was so utterly unknown by the Left as Bundy was to the Right.

Does the left have racist members? Yes, that is the only thing you have shown.

Stick with checkers, obviously you don't know chess.

Posted 426 days ago.

Kendall78

Also, the Occupy Movement was a group unlike Bundy. As you should be aware of, a single individual that represents an idea can be raised up and cast down so much faster than a group can.

Look at the Tea Party Movement as a comparison. Did they have racists within their movements? Of course they did but did that destroy the movement? No. Because just because some no name members might be racist, it didn't hinder the whole. However, when you are a single individual that also represents an idea, like Bundy and the whole idea the govt is over reaching, then it's so much more easy to destroy the idea by destroying him.

Posted 426 days ago.

Kendall78

"The occupy movement was embraced by the left and sure was an embarrassment."

What do you mean exactly by "embraced" here? Did any of the Dems in Congress join them or stick their neck out to say they really believe in them?

The only people that really embraced them were those that 100% agreed with them. Most people I know that lean Left did not agree with their tactics. They were an embarrassment but again, they were not raised up as quickly or high as some on the Right lifted Bundy.

Posted 426 days ago.

Kendall78

"you don't see them raising up people like Louis Farrakhan or Sharpton in the way recent people raised up Bundy."

No I don't. When the media (Left or Right) talks about those two, they know exactly their views on race before they even talk. As stated before, they are a known quantity. Bundy was not and the failure resulted in those that hoisted them up looking rather foolish.

Posted 426 days ago.

Kendall78

"you are deluded if you believe that."

No, I am not. MSNBC doesn't represent the Left Wing Media anymore than Fox News represents the Right. In no way am I trying to say that MSNBC isn't a part of it but they are not the bastion of the Left Wing oriented media. To say it is would be to say that everything from the Huffington Post to The New York Times isn't that important.

Posted 426 days ago.

Kendall78

"Again, bundys views on race, sports, or politics have nothing to do with the issue of grazing on federal land."

With that I totally agree. Anything the man has to say about willfully not paying the fees due to the govt has absolutely nothing to do with his position on Race.

"It's an attempt to smear him in the public eye to distract from the facts of the case."

Yep...sadly it happens in politics all the time and it shouldn't.

Posted 426 days ago.

Kendall78

"Sharpton has a television show on a liberal network but somehow they don't "raise him up" geeez"

So didn't Glenn Beck but did Fox treat him as a symbol of the Right? No...and neither has MSNBC.

This may come as a shock to you but MSNBC doesn't equal Left Wing Media anymore than Fox does Right Wing Media.

You seem to have this difficulty in realizing that everyone you mentioned is not an equal example to the Bundy situation.

Bundy was an unknown figure that was taking on the Govt and the Right grabbed him and really made him out to be some kind of patriot and symbol. No one checked out Bundy or they never thought some clever reporter would ask him on his views about race.

Posted 426 days ago.

Kendall78

"I heard him talk about n@iggers on tv and yes he used the word 2001."

Perhaps he did..what of it again? You keep talking about these people that were not put on a political pedestal like Bundy was.

How about you try and find the equal of Bundy. Find an everyday person that the Left raised up because of one subject and got their legs cut out from behind them because of racial comments made by that same person. You will find it hard to do. The closest type situation might have been Cindy Sheehan is probably the closest example I can think of but not for racial reasons. The Left elevated her until she became more of an embarrassment then anything else.

Posted 426 days ago.

Kendall78

"Does Bundy have a show on MSNBC. Lol. No they don't promote Sharpton."

Nope, but when does having a show equal the Left as supporting those statements? The Right raised an unknown, Bundy, without checking on anything about him and got caught with their pants down.

Sharpton, though very crude in regards to race, is a known property here. They know who he is and besides, how many Dems have raised Sharpton up as a symbol for the Left? None.

Posted 426 days ago.

Kendall78

I don't think anyone on here has said that there is no such thing as a racist that also is a Democrat.

The conversation is more about how the conservative side of the media tends to put certain people on pedestals before knowing what they really are.

Yet on the more liberal side of the media, you don't see them raising up people like Louis Farrakhan or Sharpton in the way recent people raised up Bundy.

Posted 427 days ago.

Kendall78

"Former Klansman and current US Senator Robert Byrd"

You might want to edit your copy/paste in the future. The only thing Byrd currently is...is dead.

Posted 427 days ago.

Kendall78

I try to keep in mind that Bundy isn't the poster child for the average Right Wing Conservative.

Posted 428 days ago.

mythravere

Speaking of the Bundy thing has anyone seen the video of the interview by one of Bundy's of a news reporter?

Talk about insanity!

But of course we know this.

You can't reason with a rightwinger.

Posted 428 days ago.

harryanderson

Ithink's eagerness to repeat this falsehood reinforces a statement that introduces this thread. There is a problem with the conservative media. In their eagerness to advance their cause, they often don’t use wisdom when they promote someone or something. Case in point: Sterling's political leanings.

Posted 429 days ago.

harryanderson

As to Sterling's party affiliation (not that it should matter anyway), Matt Drudge tweeted, "NYT...leaves out Sterling is a Democrat."

Politifact rated that tweet Pants on Fire.

As this and the Bundy incident show, some rightwingers tend to get all emotional and jump on the bandwagon before investigating to see if someone is duping them.

He who judges a matter before hearing it, it is shame and folly to him.--Proverbs

Posted 429 days ago.

Kendall78

Yeah, it sounds like he plays both sides of the fence in many ways. He donates to Democrat and Republican organizations.

Posted 433 days ago.

There does seem to be confusion now about his political actions. If I am wrong, I am sorry.

I got my info from places like this. This has been a major news story for days.

Politico, The Washington Examiner, Twitchy, bing****, National Review online, Yahoo News, Comcast, Drudge, the NY Times are a few that have reported Sterlng as a Democrat. He has been a Democrat donor, supported Democrat candidates, and is closely affiliated with the NAACP he was scheduled to get a lifetime NAACP award soon.

Posted 433 days ago.

Kendall78

"And I'll bet you didn't even know Sterling is a democrat."

Hmm, I was just watching The Five and they said he was a registered Republican.

Posted 433 days ago.

harryanderson

Right, Kendall.

Posted 433 days ago.
 
 
 
 

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