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650 days ago.
by Ohwiseone
harryanderson
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Conservatives aren't racist, but there is a problem

Kendall says most conservatives aren’t racist. That’s true, in my experience. Almost all my friends are conservative. I have some friends who express racist attitudes, but those same friends don’t espouse small-government conservative principles. I do see a problem with the conservative media. In their eagerness to advance their cause, they often don’t use wisdom when they promote someone. Case in point: Cliven Bundy.

 
 

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Kendall78

Exactly what would you call it when a new organization takes a little known rancher with no political ties and make him into a major news story? What do you call it when Republican Representatives rally on a little known rancher's behalf? What would you call it when conservative leaning militia types are willing to defend a little known rancher?

If that's not propping that little known rancher up...what the heck do you call it?

Posted 846 days ago.

Kendall78

Some of the goons on Fox's The Five also had Bundy on a political pedestal before he got off topic with the New York Times. Beckle wasn't too smug when some of the others had to backtrack.

I wish I can remember where I saw it, maybe The Five...Andrea I think, but she made it clear there are a few things that white male Republicans should just stay away from. One is reproductive rigths of women and the other is race. In most cases, the Republican in politics that talks on these topics will either step over their own feet or seem like thay are pandering to a specific group.

Posted 846 days ago.

harryanderson

Actually, Tiredofit, I'd say some--Sean Hannity in particular--did put Bundy on a pedestal. Then, when they found out more about him, they were forced to back away from him. That's the problem to which the title of this thread refers.

Posted 846 days ago.

Kendall78

"but there is a problem"

How's that Tired..happy now?

But you'll note that the "problem" doesn't revolve around illegal immigrants but specifically has to do with the conservative side of politics putting people up on pedestals that they probably shouldn't.

Posted 846 days ago.

harryanderson

Ith" it's just a desperate attempt to change the subject, and try to link this man's beliefs to all conservatives."

I refer you to the title of this thread, Tiredofit. It states flatly, "Conservatives are not racist..."

Your imagination is running away again.

Posted 846 days ago.

Kendall78

"even though he has every right to his beliefs"

Of course he does, just as everyone has the right to associate with a racist or not. Most politicians don't want to which is their right.

Posted 846 days ago.

Kendall78

"This administration very selectively enforces laws."

I agree but I don't know an administration that wasn't selective.

"Our security is not important to obama and Holder."

I disagree. Unless I am mistaken, issues related to illegal immigration isn't any worse than it was 10 years ago. In fact, due to the recession, the flow of illegal immigrants have went down.

"One rancher and his cattle do not affect us,"

I disagree, by not paying the fees, he is in fact screwing the American public from their funds.

"We have never before had a president and justice Dept who picked and chose which laws to enforce."

Hmm, I think the Reagan administration did that exact thing. That's how Amnesty came about.

Posted 846 days ago.

This administration very selectively enforces laws. Border control should be defended by them, but is not. Our security is not important to obama and Holder. One rancher and his cattle do not affect us, but obama acts according to his own desires.

We have never before had a president and justice Dept who picked and chose which laws to enforce.

Posted 846 days ago.

Kendall78

"One man's patriot is another man's traitor."

Yep, Benedict Arnold, Jefferson Davis and Cliven Bundy have that in common. They are all patriots to somebody.

Posted 846 days ago.

Kendall78

" It ties together two of their favorite targets guns and resisting big govt. They don't like either."

You do like to guess a lot don't you? It also seems like you want to make this about everything but the subject itself.

Personally, I like guns fine. But like the Federal agents doing their jobs, I wouldn't like it if law breakers were pointing them at me.

I have no problems with citizens resiting Govt but this may come as a shock to you Tired but citizens have a way of resisting and it's called an election. The form of resisting you are promoting is called anarchy. Are you becoming a Libertarian?

Posted 846 days ago.

Kendall78

"Well Maybe the feds can enforce immigration law with such zeal.."

Maybe you shouldn't try the ol bait and switch tactic. Immigration and the law Bundy broke are not the same thing.

Posted 846 days ago.

Kendall78

"I was glad the armed feds gave up their armed actions before they committed another Waco with deaths."

Yeah, it was nice that the Feds were stopped from executing the law because of militia-like idiots pointing their weapons at them. It was very wise because soon they will deal with Bundy as the law intended.

Posted 847 days ago.

harryanderson

I agree, Ithink. I'm glad the Feds used good judgment. Bundy and his gun-toting henchmen didn't.

Posted 847 days ago.

There is no liberal version of Ann Coulter. She is an author, a lawyer, smart, and beautiful. Not exactly a Maureen Dowd.

i have never written the word Bundy before. He is just one individual of no importance to me. I was glad the armed feds gave up their armed actions before they committed another Waco with deaths.

Posted 847 days ago.

Kendall78

"Does anybody still think Cliven Bundy should be considered a patriot?"

Nope and it has nothing to do with his racial views. He knew what the law was and broke it without any excuse other than he didn't want to pay his fees. That is not patriotic.

Posted 847 days ago.

Kendall78

Unlike you, I wouldn't have to make anything up at all. But you just keep having faith that you have an educational background that is worthwhile.

*Sigh* Now then...are you done with all these ad hominems? Can we get back to the discussion at hand? If no, then I would request you create a special "Tired's Insult Page" so you'll have aspecial place to let off some stream and decades old pop culture references.

Posted 847 days ago.

harryanderson

Back on topic. Does anybody still think Cliven Bundy should be considered a patriot?

Posted 847 days ago.

Kendall78

"The uneducated and uninformed are prone to such things."

I would put up my educational background and life experiences against yours anyday.

What's with all this hatred Tired. Calm down a little..breath. If you wish, you could actually discuss the comments made instead of blindly insulting them as if that makes them worthless.

Posted 847 days ago.

Kendall78

"I believe black liberal Juan Williams was treated better by conservatives than liberals."

I like Juan and I think most of the Fox viewers respect him. From everything I've heard from him, I would consider him more of a Moderate that leans Left than a flat out liberal.

Fox's "liberals" usually seem closer to the middle than the far left.

What they need is the liberal version of Ann Coulter to be a regular on one of their shows.

Posted 847 days ago.

I believe black liberal Juan Williams was treated better by conservatives than liberals.

Posted 847 days ago.
 
 
 
 

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