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94 days ago.
by slinky
harryanderson
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Thankfully, the anti-science propaganda campaign surrounding man-made climate change seems to have lost some of its effect.

Are you seeing storm clouds on the horizon? Two recent studies suggest that the latest anti-science campaign is following its forerunners--the propaganda campaigns attempting to refute science that tobacco causes cancer, that CFC's caused the hole in the ozone layer, and so on—into oblivion. Global warming denial seems to have climbed to a peak in 2010, and global warming acceptance is now climbing. This bodes well for rational public policy.

 
 

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Kendall78

" The temperature of the top half of the world's oceans -- above the 1.24-mile mark -- is still climbing"

(NASA)

Posted 483 days ago.

Kendall78

"THE EVIDENCE IS.."

What evidence?

Posted 483 days ago.

harryanderson

Mythravere,

You also reposted,

"...the upper part of the world’s oceans continue to absorb heat from global warming"

According to this, the "missing heat" isn't missing. It's in the ocean.

Posted 484 days ago.

harryanderson

Mythravere, you reposted,

"Although the top half of the ocean continues to warm, the bottom half has not increased measurably in temperature in the last decade."

Good catch. This statement actually supports global warming.

Posted 484 days ago.

mythravere

"So whats the latest lie to attempt to scare people into handing over the energy sector?"

I told you that I nor any of the others have stated any kind of support for "taking" over the energy sector.

What do you keep making like we do? Are you that desperate for attention.

Posted 484 days ago.

mythravere

Also I never said that the deep oceans were absorbing heat. I specifically referenced a news item that you referenced.

Posted 484 days ago.

mythravere

"image shows heat radiating from the Pacific Ocean as imaged by the NASA’s Clouds and the Earth's Radiant Energy System While the upper part of the world’s oceans continue to absorb heat from global warming"

" Although the top half of the ocean continues to warm, the bottom half has not increased measurably in temperature in the last decade."

Thats from what you copy pasted on here. That supports what I am saying. LOL!

Posted 484 days ago.

mythravere

You also fail to understand that science is a field that gets updated as new information comes along.

Its no wonder that Republicans/conservatives have such a problem with science.

Science isn't rigid and weighed down with an inflexible dogma.

Science can be tested and verified. If new information contradicts old information then the old is tossed out and the new vetted information is used to inform the scientific knowledge.

Which is totally unlike Republicans in that if information they put forth is found lacking in facts...well they just go on like nothing happened and deny they are wrong.

Posted 484 days ago.

mythravere

Its not our problem that your political leanings cause you to gloss over the scientific facts and cherry pick information that only supports what you say.

Its becoming clear that the oceans are absorbing a lot of the heat. Heat that otherwise would be in the atmosphere. The natural phenomenon that is causing this could potentially last for another decade.

But to state that because the atmosphere isn't warming therefore there is no global warming while there are facts stating that the oceans are absorbing more heat than anticipated is being willfully ignorant.

Its also nothing more than a part of the gotcha game of political brinkmanship that you have been playing the whole time on here.

Posted 484 days ago.

Kendall78

Stillwrong is still at it isn't he? Trying to say what isn't but too afraid to say what is.

I wonder if he knows the definition of insanity?

Posted 484 days ago.

mythravere

By the way. The models aren't mine. They are the product of the scientists hard work. Please give credit where credit is due.

Posted 485 days ago.

mythravere

Maybe its not sticking because I'm not advocating a socialist agenda.

I know that you really want to believe that because it makes conversing with me and the others a lot simpler for you...but it just doesn't reflect reality.

Posted 485 days ago.

mythravere

"Even Steven Westfall agrees that global warming is a hoax"

LOL! I dont even care.

But I guess its to be expected that you'd play that card.

Posted 485 days ago.

mythravere

"We don't hand over our energy sector to GOVT on THEORIES."

No one here is saying that should be done.

But I get it. It's a talking point you love to repeat. Or really you have to repeat it so that you keep your conservative card. LOL!

Posted 485 days ago.

mythravere

Apparently Tiredofit doesn't know the definition of scientific theory.

He's confusing scientific theory with just a plain theory which is significantly different from the common usage of the word "theory", which implies that something is a conjecture, hypothesis, or guess (i.e., unsubstantiated and speculative).

Well...no surprise there!

Posted 485 days ago.

harryanderson

@Kendall,

Actually, the two main theories of why Antarctic ocean ice is increasing both have global warming as their cause.

“The two main contenders are shifting winds around the Antarctic continent (possibly linked to the ozone hole or the warming of the continent), which could be smearing the sea ice out over a larger area, and a pool of fresher water around the continent resulting from the melting of continental glaciers.”

ht tp://ww w.weather.co m/news/science/environment/antarctic-sea-ice-reaches-all-time-record-high-nsidc-20141008

Claire Parkinson, a senior scientist at NASA’s Goddard Space Flight Center, says,

“The planet as a whole is doing what was expected in terms of warming. Sea ice as a whole is decreasing as expected, but just like with global warming, not every location with sea ice will have a downward trend in ice extent.”

ht tp://ww w.nasa.go v/content/goddard/antarctic-sea-ice-reaches-new-record-maximum/#.VDgbc0tGifc

Posted 485 days ago.

mythravere

"larry moe curley AND shemp, I have em all out"

A trolls only ambition. LOL!

Posted 485 days ago.

Kendall78

"Antarctic sea ice level breaks record, NASA says"

Such a small amount and yet it says so much about the dishonesty of Stillwrong.

1. Does Stillwrong consider NASA a credible source in general? Of course not because 99% of what they put out about climate change he would disagree with.

2. Sea ice? What about the ice on the continent itself Stillwrong....tell us how that is doing ;)

Posted 485 days ago.

harryanderson

@ Mythravere Your posts are educational. Glad to see someone has the brains to look past the headlines.

As to the deep oceans, the NASA press release also says, "Study coauthor Josh Willis of JPL said these findings do not throw suspicion on climate change itself. 'The sea level is still rising,' Willis noted. 'We're just trying to understand the nitty-gritty details.'"

ht tp://ww w.nasa.g ov/press/2014/october/nasa-study-finds-earth-s-ocean-abyss-has-not-warmed/#.VDdzC91HarU

Posted 485 days ago.

mythravere

Stillhere. Do you just blindly find headlines that you think/assume support what you believe then fire them off on here without reading them?

Posted 485 days ago.
 
 
 
 

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