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7 hours ago.
by Ohwiseone
harryanderson
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Thankfully, the anti-science propaganda campaign surrounding man-made climate change seems to have lost some of its effect.

Are you seeing storm clouds on the horizon? Two recent studies suggest that the latest anti-science campaign is following its forerunners--the propaganda campaigns attempting to refute science that tobacco causes cancer, that CFC's caused the hole in the ozone layer, and so on—into oblivion. Global warming denial seems to have climbed to a peak in 2010, and global warming acceptance is now climbing. This bodes well for rational public policy.

 
 

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harryanderson

There is no crisis at present. That's why the counter global warming propaganda has shifted public opinion. People aren't yet seeing changes. It's not yet affecting them.

Maybe there have been changes due to global warming. Nevertheless, the extra energy is there, and almost every climate scientist says it will emerge and change the climate in ways that will lessen our ability to grow food, hydrate ourselves, and perform other necessary tasks.

Posted 168 days ago.

harryanderson

I've never said we had a crisis. I've been consistent in saying that the problem is manageable.

I'm hopeful the problem won't turn into a crisis. All over the world, people are acting. They're conserving fossil fuels and developing alternatives.

If we make small sacrifices now, we canl avoid a crisis later.

Posted 168 days ago.

Stillhere

Finally you admit it thank you

Posted 168 days ago.

Stillhere

"while there is still no crisis." Harryanderson

Posted 168 days ago.

Stillhere

"I'm one of those who are called deniers," Will admitted. "Of course the climate is changing, it's always changing. That's what gave us the medieval warm period. That's what gave us -- subsequent to that for centuries -- the Little Ice Age. Of course it's changing."

Posted 168 days ago.

Stillhere

Will also said another thing that makes global warming so hard to rebut is that it is essentially a religion.

Posted 168 days ago.

harryanderson

Will and you are correct in one respect. Liberals will exploit the crisis to grow government and circumscribe our freedoms.

That’s why I applaud conservatives like Schultz and Netanyahu who want to “act determinedly” while there is still no crisis. Like I wrote before, if we allow ourselves to get “mugged by reality,” big government will step in.

If we allow ourselves to get mugged by reality, we will get mugged by government.

Posted 168 days ago.

Stillhere

I think George is correct

Posted 168 days ago.

Stillhere

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George Will had a good opinion piece on the subject.

Conservative columnist George Will says global warming is just another way for liberals to get what liberals want: more government power.

"Global warming is socialism by the back door," Will told The Daily Caller. "I mean, the whole point of global warming is it is a rationalization for progressives to do what progressives want to do, which is concentrate more and more power in Washington, more and more Washington power in the executive branch, more and more executive branch power in independent czars and agencies, to micromanage the lives of the American people."

Posted 168 days ago.

Stillhere

And folks that is the real story here, create the crisis offer the solution, which is always control. Notice how the problem is always somewhere else? Somewhere you cannot see? The record cold here is to be discounted as "over there" it getting warmner. Ever question that? you should

Posted 168 days ago.

Stillhere

The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed (and hence clamorous to be led to safety) by menacing it with an endless series of hobgoblins, all of them imaginary.

H. L. Mencken

Posted 168 days ago.

Stillhere

Follow the money folks, Socialism is never for he socialist, they will live in high style while the useful idiots pay homage to the regime.

Posted 168 days ago.

harryanderson

I'd said you'd post angry, irrelevant things to bury my post.

And right on cue, you deflect to the ozone layer.

Like I said, these interactions are useful.

Posted 168 days ago.

Stillhere

If they ever actually convince us that the crisis is real, there will be a never ending series claims that we are making progess but more must be given up.

Posted 168 days ago.

Stillhere

Same ole scam same ole players.

Posted 168 days ago.

Stillhere

But then they claim it would have been WORSE had they not banned cfcs. REALLY? care to prove that?

Global warming is the same scam just on steroids. Nothing will change, however they will awlays CLIAM it would have been worse had we not handed over our liberties. LOLOL lemmings all

Posted 168 days ago.

harryanderson

I’m not sure I agree with Schultz’s proposed solutions. I prefer the conservationist and personal responsibility approach. We should conserve resources for those who come behind us and assume responsibility for our actions that reduce others’ standard of living.

That being said, I agree with Schultz that, if we fail to act, we’ll be “mugged by reality.” And when that happens, big, intrusive, government steps in to exploit the crisis. That’s when our freedoms erode.

We should all conserve. Turn down thermostats. Walk, bike, or use shared transportation when possible. If we each act responsibly in his or her own sphere of influence, together we can make a huge impact. If we all sacrifice just a few of our present luxuries, we’ll leave better gift to those who follow us. It’s the right thing to do.

Posted 168 days ago.

Stillhere

It reminds one of the OZONE HOLE of he 80s, what happened to that?

It's still a problem. As of a few weeks ago, the "hole"—which isn't so much a gap in the ozone layer as an area of seasonal thinning—is even bigger than it was at the height of the ozone panic in the 1980s

Posted 168 days ago.

harryanderson

Once again, stillhere, you show how completely you have lost the debate and have no options left but to suggest something is wrong with me.

That's why these little exchanges are useful. It shows that the anti-global warmers have no real argument.

I'd say your next tactic will be to post a lot of angry, irrelevant stuff to bury my post.

Posted 168 days ago.

Stillhere

The real beauty is, it will NEVER EVER END. There is no endgame with the Climate mongers. They cannot tell you HOW they will ever know they have slain this invisible and imaginary beast they will just keep buying swords to swing wildly all the while profiting from the fear they have manufactured

Posted 168 days ago.
 
 
 
 

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