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5 days ago.
by Kendall78
harryanderson
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Thankfully, the anti-science propaganda campaign surrounding man-made climate change seems to have lost some of its effect.

Are you seeing storm clouds on the horizon? Two recent studies suggest that the latest anti-science campaign is following its forerunners--the propaganda campaigns attempting to refute science that tobacco causes cancer, that CFC's caused the hole in the ozone layer, and so on—into oblivion. Global warming denial seems to have climbed to a peak in 2010, and global warming acceptance is now climbing. This bodes well for rational public policy.

 
 

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harryanderson

Hello, Kendall. Glad to see you back here.

Of course the oceans absorb heat. No reasonable person could dispute that. Here’s a brief explanation:

“Not only do the oceans cover more than 2/3 of the Earth's surface, they also absorb more sunlight and store more heat. Additionally the oceans retain heat longer. The Sun's rays also penetrate the oceans to a depth of many meters, but only heat up the top layer of the sand or soil.”

htt p://ww w.ucmp.berkeley.edu/education/dynamic/session4/sess4_act3.htm

And “Ocean temperatures around the world are steadily creeping upward, according to a new study from the Scripps Institution of Oceanography.”

htt p://ww w.scpr.or g/news/2015/02/02/49566/world-s-oceans-steadily-heating-up-new-study-finds/

Posted 90 days ago.

harryanderson

I’ll repeat the quote I put up before.

“Climate researchers look to longer term trends to determine warming, as there is too much natural variability within any given year. And that long-term trend is unequivocal (see NASA chart below): The world has now gone 30 consecutive years — 360 straight months — where every month has been above the 20th century average, according to the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration.”

htt p://ww w.factcheck.o rg/2015/03/cruz-on-the-global-cooling-myth-and-galileo/

And I’ll add this, from the same fact check: “Nine of the 10 hottest years on record have occurred since 2000, with 1998 the only exception.”

Posted 90 days ago.

Kendall78

Stillthere, do you believe that the oceans absorb heat? Yes or no

Posted 90 days ago.

Kendall78

Actually stillthere, I was merely using your flawed premise to show how utterly stupid it is.

Global warming hasn't stopped but to only those that do not understand rational thinking.

Posted 90 days ago.

Stillhere

SO harry how much warming again?

Posted 90 days ago.

Stillhere

SO harry how much warming again?

Posted 90 days ago.

Stillhere

From NASSA

Posted 90 days ago.

Stillhere

Q. How accurate are the GISS results (tables, graphs)? A. The GISS results are really estimates based on the available data. Accurate error estimates are hard to obtain. However, it is likely that the largest contribution to the margin of error is given by the temporal and spatial data gaps. That particular margin was estimated as follows: All computations were first made replacing the observed data by complete model data. Then the calculations were repeated after discarding model data where the corresponding observations were missing. Comparisons of the two results were used to obtain an estimate for that margin of error. Assuming that the other inaccuracies might about double that estimate yielded the error bars for global annual means drawn in this graph, i.e., for recent years the error bar for global annual means is about ±0.05°C, for years around 1900 it is about ±0.1°C. The error bars are about twice as big for seasonal means and three times as big for monthly means.

Posted 90 days ago.

Stillhere

Unequivocal???? based on what data>?/

Posted 90 days ago.

Stillhere

1. The oceans are absorbing a lot of the excess heat. WHERE IS THE PROOF OF THIS>?

2. Surface temperatures continue to rise. 2000-2010 is the hottest decade recorded, 13 of the warmest years have come in the last 15, 2014 was most likely the warmest ever, according to NASA, and “the long-time warming trend is unequivocal.” THIS IS A PLAIN OLD LIE WHAT ARE THE MARGINS OF ERROR AND WHAT WHAS THE TOTAL WARMING?

Posted 90 days ago.

Stillhere

Your data is faulty and you are being intentionally dishonest Harry, the margin of error is GREATER Than the warming you claim, do you deny that fact?

Posted 90 days ago.

Stillhere

Again, what it the margin of error in the data you cite Harry, LOL you always avoid that one.

Posted 90 days ago.

harryanderson

The Steven Goddard piece says that in 1976, the outlier climatologists mentioned "(could) offer no scientific proof to back up their theories that the earth (was) cooling."

Now, in 2015, the few outlier climatologists who claim the earth isn't heating up can offer no scientific proof to back up their theories.

But, as I pointed out, the earth is warming, to wit:

1. The oceans are absorbing a lot of the excess heat.

2. Surface temperatures continue to rise. 2000-2010 is the hottest decade recorded, 13 of the warmest years have come in the last 15, 2014 was most likely the warmest ever, according to NASA, and “the long-time warming trend is unequivocal.”

I suggest the 2015 scientific studies I cited should carry more weight 1976 opinions backed up by no scientific studies.

Posted 90 days ago.

harryanderson

Global warming has not stopped, as I pointed out. However, the rate of warming at the earth’s surface has slowed down, but it continues to rise.

That’s the surface. New 2015 studies suggest that over 90% of the heat from global warming is going in the ocean

(htt p://ww w.scpr.or g/news/2015/02/02/49566/world-s-oceans-steadily-heating-up-new-study-finds/),

and that “the forces behind the supposed hiatus are natural— and temporary — ocean processes that may already changing course.”

(*******e360.yale.edu/feature/how_long_can_oceans_continue_to_absorb_earths_excess_heat/2860/).

As to those who ask what the “correct” temperature is: “Most scientists concur that two degrees C of warming above the temperature during preindustrial time would harm all sectors of civilization—food, water, health, land, national security, energy and economic prosperity.”

ht tp://w ww.scientificamerican.co m/article/earth-will-cross-the-climate-danger-threshold-by-2036/

Posted 90 days ago.

Kunectdots

"40 Years Since Climatologists Blamed California Drought On Global Cooling"

h ttps://stevengoddard.wordpress.c om/2015/05/03/40-years-since-climatologists-blamed-california-drought-on-global-cooling/

Posted 90 days ago.

Stillhere

You used to claim the rate of increase was proof that it wasn't a natural variation. What say you now when all the evidence points to a pause or plateau in warming?

Posted 90 days ago.

Stillhere

Do you deny that we were once covered in thick ice sheets right here?

Posted 91 days ago.

Stillhere

Just how will you know that you have fixed the problem you believe exists?

Posted 91 days ago.

Stillhere

Tell me Kendall, when was the climate RIGHT?

Posted 91 days ago.

Stillhere

Kendall78

It's cute how ppl who mention the last 18 years never mention the climate reverting back to the way it was prior...

And when was that Kendall, the ICE AGE? Should we long for the days of 2 mile thick ICE over our heads?

Posted 91 days ago.
 
 
 
 

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