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97 days ago.
by slinky
harryanderson
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Thankfully, the anti-science propaganda campaign surrounding man-made climate change seems to have lost some of its effect.

Are you seeing storm clouds on the horizon? Two recent studies suggest that the latest anti-science campaign is following its forerunners--the propaganda campaigns attempting to refute science that tobacco causes cancer, that CFC's caused the hole in the ozone layer, and so on—into oblivion. Global warming denial seems to have climbed to a peak in 2010, and global warming acceptance is now climbing. This bodes well for rational public policy.

 
 

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It is my opinion that it is a well documented reality, tiredofit.Do you require a self verification of this process?

Posted 1021 days ago.

Thatsabsurd

Another Night of Cold Temperatures for the Central U.S.

Well below normal temperatures will continue overnight from the Plains to the Ohio Valley. Freezing temperatures will extend southward into Oklahoma and across to Tennessee. Numerous Frost Advisories and Freeze Warnings are in effect. Sensitive plants could be damaged by these cold temperatures in this region.

Posted 1021 days ago.

mythravere

When someone makes a post on here when none has been made in any of the forums for awhile it usually moves it up to the top of the list.

Is it strange at all that I knew you thatsabsurd was the one who had made a post before even seeing it?

Posted 1039 days ago.

mythravere

Ummm. Noooo. LOL!

Posted 1039 days ago.

Thatsabsurd

Not once has the conclusion of the Climate scientesteeess made it through a vetting process. This is a process the scintific feild uses to determine if PROPER Science METHODS were used to obtain a conclusion............................never happened not once, ever, never, notta, never ever not even once.

The crap that climate scientesteeees put forth has been declared by the science community as garbage.

So the Climate scintesteees vet themselves. This is like a criminal exonerating himself, Its garbage myth...........face the truth or remain an imbecile forever.

Posted 1039 days ago.

RANDOM21

Oops, 37 hours , not minutes. That makes it all worth while, doesn't it.

Posted 1043 days ago.

RANDOM21

Germany is spending 110 billion for solar power that will delay global warming by 37 minutes by the year 2100. Big bang for the bucks? Don't think so.

Posted 1043 days ago.

mythravere

A warming climate cant totally stop cold weather patterns at this point.

Posted 1043 days ago.

mythravere

By the way. A warming climate can totally stop cold weather patterns at this point. The polar areas are still areas of extreme cold.

But look at seasonal variations in weather patterns that are abnormal.

Winter this year almost seemed as if it came later than normal.

Also the snow storms we seen this year. Thats is a result of more energy and moisture in the atmosphere.

Its all about cause and effects.

Posted 1043 days ago.

mythravere

You know the scientific proof of climate change is out there and mans role in it.

But you can't believe any of it because you are letting politics dictate the truth for you.

Do yourself a favor and look at where the source of your position on climate change originates.

There is a huge amount of money flowing into groups whose sole purpose is to sow doubt about the issue.

Also look at the media you consume.

A fine example is the pipeline that burst in Arkansas. Certain media outlets didn't even make mention of it.

You speak of people having agendas. What if you position on an important issue is the result of an agenda.

I ask the same of my own beliefs. But I dont take all the positions that come up around this issue and what to do about it.

I get the feeling you know very little of the science surrounding mans influence on the climate. If you actually looked at it honestly I doubt you'd be saying what you are.

Posted 1043 days ago.

Thatsabsurd

EMHH hhh you see because of excess moisture in the air ahh well.....ah you see because of ah the humans pollution erhhhhhhh ah we had too have record low temps to erh ahhhhh maintain the 400(+) temp of the great lakes which proves AWG is occurring at rapid rates and the end is near.

Posted 1054 days ago.

Thatsabsurd

Globewarmers----Imbeciles.... ..any difference?

Nope

Posted 1058 days ago.

Tinfoilhat, not only do those hypocrites who try to force us to go green still use AC in their home, AL and obama continue to jet around the world for pleasure. Hypocrites. I work at conserving energy.

Jets , big cars, and big spending are their MO. What a joke.

Posted 1065 days ago.

mythravere

Bolo points out an honest truth about green energy. In some cases its just not ready and wont be for quite some time. Or there are other issues that need working out.

None of its really green to be even more honest.

The only upside is that they represent a shift to forms of energy that aren't finite in their availability.

Posted 1065 days ago.

mythravere

If not then step aside and allow continued development of alternatives.

Thats not how it works?

Well then wanting alternatives and continuing to use dirtier energy because of a lack of alternatives and being construed as a form of hypocrisy isn't how it works for those who champion cleaner energy.

Posted 1066 days ago.

mythravere

Pointing that out does nothing. People need energy. People want to see energy become cleaner. That cant happen with people and corporations standing in the way of that happening.

Nonrenewable energy is becoming more volatile in availability and cost. That along with the pollution it causes and environmental degradation makes people want alternatives.

There is nothing wrong with wanting alternatives.

The real question is why do people vehemently oppose developing and bringing online cleaner energy sources?

Hows about this. We keep and exploit all the fossil fuels we have until they are gone. During this period those who champion those energy sources pick up the tab and pay all the costs associated with said sources.

If those people want us to stay on those forms of energy then I think it fair they pay for it.

Posted 1066 days ago.

mythravere

Well we all know that people are more than willing to interpret the word of god as they see fit. And to flat out ignore parts that contradict a position they hold.

Lots of people speak fondly of god but their hearts are in a totally different place.

I think the political angle is one of the bigger ones. A part of that could be attributed to the fact that some rightwingers will absolutely deny anything they feel is coming from the left. They can also assign that "leftist" label to it and it frees them up from critical thinking.

But there also another angle. The fear factor of the whole thing. People fear change. And to deal with climate change big big changes would have to be made to how we deal with carbon emissions. I'll add that people could also be afraid that we may have done severe damage to our planet and the repercussions kick in the old ostrich putting its head in the hole routine.

Posted 1066 days ago.

harryanderson

Now the argument that man is to “work” or “till” the Earth applies to pollution in general. What about anthropogenic carbon dioxide in particular?

The negative effects of climate change do not affect people equally, and harming others is not Christian.

The whole law is summed up as, “to love the Lord with all your might and your neighbor as yourself.” And the “whole duty…of man is to do justly, love mercy, and walk humbly with your God.”

Climate change harms some people more than others. This fact drives a lot of the POLITICAL denial—it is seen as a “wealth distribution” scheme because solutions involve people in northern climates giving up some of their advantage. However, using more fossil fuels and thereby causing others to suffer is not “loving your neighbor as yourself.” It is not “doing justly (or) loving mercy.”

I see a Christian argument for, not against, accepting climate science. So I still don’t get the religious reasons for denial.

Posted 1066 days ago.

harryanderson

Myth listed two possible religious reasons why someone would doubt the science of global climate change.

1. We needn’t concern ourselves because God will “remake this world (and) take care of it”

2. “man cant effect our world because only god has the power to do so.”

Actually, both questions have the same answer: God gave mankind dominion, or power, over the earth, but not without conditions.

Genesis 2:15 says, “And the LORD God took the man, and put him into the garden of Eden to dress it and to keep it.” The NIV translates this, “to work it and take care of it.”

And these instructions didn’t only apply to Eden. Gen. 3:23 says, “God sent him forth from the garden of Eden, to till the ground from whence he was taken.”

So man was charged with keeping the earth productive, not to destroy it. And when God does restore the Earth, one thing he will do is “destroy those who destroy the earth.” (Rev. 11:18)

Posted 1066 days ago.

neocurmudgeon74

(insert the triple w, & the dot org)

Posted 1067 days ago.
 
 
 
 

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