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124 days ago.
by slinky
harryanderson
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Thankfully, the anti-science propaganda campaign surrounding man-made climate change seems to have lost some of its effect.

Are you seeing storm clouds on the horizon? Two recent studies suggest that the latest anti-science campaign is following its forerunners--the propaganda campaigns attempting to refute science that tobacco causes cancer, that CFC's caused the hole in the ozone layer, and so on—into oblivion. Global warming denial seems to have climbed to a peak in 2010, and global warming acceptance is now climbing. This bodes well for rational public policy.

 
 

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harryanderson

correction on the last phrase of the last post. It should read like this:

where the Bible says we we “have not been given a spirit of fear, but of power and of love and of a sound mind.”

Posted 1154 days ago.

harryanderson

In the first place, I didn’t call YOU anything. I went after your POSITION.

As far as “com(ing) down off my high horse,” no thanks.

Been there, done that.

I don’t care to go back down where peoples’ vain imaginations cause them to “resent being condescended to,” where people have irrational fears of worldwide political conspiracies, and where people can’t tell the difference between an attack on one’s position and an attack on one’s person.

I’d rather see you come up here on what you misguidedly call my “high horse,” where we “have not been given a spirit of fear, but of power and of love and of a sound mind.”

Posted 1154 days ago.

Harry, I know republicans, you are no republican. lol You are more like a prima donna.

Your religion is your business. In America, we don't force our religion on others.

Posted 1155 days ago.

mythravere

You know why I dont "take harry's head off"?

Because Harry doesn't seem to be the type to try and shove his beliefs down my throat.

With Harry I can honestly agree to disagree on some of those issue and its left at that. And (I dont know this for sure)Harry doesn't seem to think me evil for the beliefs I have. Cant say the same for some others on here.

Posted 1155 days ago.

harryanderson

Furthermore, I will continue to expose distortions of fact and irrational thinking posted here. How others respond is up to them. I don’t care. Actually their name-calling shows they lack a sound basis for their beliefs. Had they a sound basis, they probably wouldn’t revert to name-calling.

And I will call myself a Republican, and register to vote as one, whether others like it or not. Again, I don’t care. Only I have authority over that, and others cannot, because I call myself a Republican, coerce or shame me into believing anthropogenic global climate change is a political conspiracy.

I believe God made Adam because God says so. God doesn’t say anthropogenic climate change is a political conspiracy, and I don’t choose to believe it is. Nothing fraudulent about that. If others think it is, I don’t care.

Posted 1155 days ago.

harryanderson

I am not a fraud. I understand why some would think so, but it’s not true.

It’s not true because I sincerely believe that one should live by “every word that proceeds from the mouth of God.” I sincerely believe that one should “let this mind be in you that was in Jesus.” That includes whatever thought comes into my mind, political or otherwise.

Again, I choose to believe God whenever God speaks on a subject. When God doesn't speak on a subject, I choose to use the sound mind that God has given me. I will not “hide (my) lamp under a basket.” Even if my voice could be stilled, the words that I quote from the Bible cannot.

If the contrast between others’ words and mine makes them feel that they’ve been condescended to or makes them feel wronged (talk about playing the victim!), it comes from their vain imaginations, not from my words.

Posted 1155 days ago.

harryanderson

"Some of us do not care to hear about your religion."

That's it!

Posted 1155 days ago.

Harry, there are plenty of religious forums where religious discussions are in their proper place. This is a political forum.

Some of us do not care to hear about your religion. Worship as you please but leave me out of it.

And if you didn't worship at the feet of the climate fraud bunch, and other liberal hogwash, myth would take your head off for talking about Jesus fairy tales.

Posted 1155 days ago.

harryanderson

I choose to believe God whenever God speaks on a subject. When God doesn't speak on a subject, I choose to use the sound mind that God has given me.

For that I am called names and reviled.

I choose not to revile in return. I choose not to return evil for evil. I choose not to take it personally.

After all, Jesus said, “The world cannot hate you; but it hates me, because I testify of it, that its works are evil.”

Jesus is no fraud. and his words require no interpretation.

Posted 1155 days ago.

Bravo,Tiredofit !!!

Harry, I am fine with God. The problem is people making unwelcome interpretations of His holy words. It almost seems like sacrilege.

Posted 1155 days ago.

harryanderson

Ithink,

I am not “right.” Only God is right. The words I “preach” from the Bible aren’t mine. They come from God. It’s not my doing if those words make you feel like you’re wrong. God intended them to make you feel like you need to make an adjustment. God says he intends them for “doctrine, reproof, correction, and instruction in righteousness.

And please explain how my opinions on global climate change are “Democratic.” According to a poll I cited a few days ago, many Republicans share them.

Posted 1155 days ago.

harryanderson

Tiredofit,

I don’t believe you: I think you do intend to denigrate my faith. When I give Biblical reasons for my positions, and another person repeatedly calls me a fraud for doing so, it seems to me that person intends to denigrate my faith.

Posted 1155 days ago.

What a pair. One frequently says he doesn't like either party. But just watch how he ALWAYS sides with the democrats. Who asked you to leave, myth, as you are always complaining about?

The other SAYS he is a republican, but mostly talks the talking points of the democrats. Then, he preaches, as a way of telling us he is right and we are wrong

Posted 1156 days ago.

mythravere

Tell me something. How can conservatives bring anything to any debate when they are absolutely not free to bring any kind of independent thought into the debate.

For you guys its either tow the party line or get the heck out.

There is no better example than how you guys treat Harry. Its as if he isn't allowed to call himself a conservative if he has thoughts and positions that dont tow that party line.

That right there flies in the face of freedom!

Posted 1156 days ago.

mythravere

Vintage: a period of origin or manufacture

Example: A piano of 1845 vintage.

Another example: A article of 2011 vintage.

Posted 1156 days ago.

harryanderson

I don’t know what a Forbes magazine editorial claimed NASA said two years ago. I don’t consider it important because Forbes lacks expertise in the area. Here’s what NASA itself published four days ago about a joint study it conducted with the University of Tasmania:

"’Our research revealed warming of the planet can be clearly detected since 1873 and that our oceans continue to absorb the great majority of this heat,’ said researcher and lead author Will Hobbs of the University of Tasmania's Institute for Marine and Antarctic Studies and the Australian Research Council's Centre of Excellence for Climate System Science. ‘Currently, scientists estimate the oceans absorb more than 90 percent of the heat trapped by greenhouse gases, and we attribute the global warming to anthropogenic (human-produced) causes.’"

ww w.jpl.nasa.gov/news/news.php?release=2013-175

If we want to know what NASA says, I suggest we consult NASA, not a Forbes editorial.

Posted 1156 days ago.

harryanderson

“Science does NOT support your Christian beliefs so you are a denier yourself no?”

I sure am.

I’m glad you asked that, tiredofit. I’m always ready to give a reason for the hope that is in me.

My faith requires denial. Hebrews says, “Now faith is…the evidence of things not seen.”

However, non-Biblical knowledge, or things I see, also plays a role in forming my beliefs. Proverbs says, “The fear of the LORD is the beginning of knowledge: but fools despise wisdom and instruction.” So I first look to God. After that, I consult knowledge, or physical evidence, and wisdom, or logic. I don’t despise wisdom and instruction: I put them in their proper place.

When evidence and logic contradict God’s word, I choose to believe God’s word. I do deny: I deny that my eyes and my reason are more reliable than God’s promises.

And that applies directly to the discussion of anthropogenic climate change.

Posted 1156 days ago.

When you speak of "2011 vintage", myth, are you implying that 2011 is ancient history?

And here I thought you believed that your scientists could read the unrecorded past and see into the unpredictable future.

Now you act like somethng said in 2011 is worthless old stuff.

Posted 1156 days ago.

mythravere

Oh yea the guy who wrote the paper the Forbes article was referring to is also a proponent of Intelligent design so...yea.

Not much of a conflict of interest there now is there?

Posted 1157 days ago.

mythravere

No, new data does not "blow a gaping hole in global warming alarmism"

By Phil Plait

And also of 2011 vintage. LOL!

Posted 1157 days ago.
 
 
 
 

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