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152 days ago.
by slinky
harryanderson
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Thankfully, the anti-science propaganda campaign surrounding man-made climate change seems to have lost some of its effect.

Are you seeing storm clouds on the horizon? Two recent studies suggest that the latest anti-science campaign is following its forerunners--the propaganda campaigns attempting to refute science that tobacco causes cancer, that CFC's caused the hole in the ozone layer, and so on—into oblivion. Global warming denial seems to have climbed to a peak in 2010, and global warming acceptance is now climbing. This bodes well for rational public policy.

 
 

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harryanderson

Did you check my source, stillhere?

Posted 580 days ago.

harryanderson

It shows your desperation that you quibble over which year was warmest by a very small amount. Here's the real relevant statistic from the paper:

"The fifteen warmest years all occurred since 1998."

Posted 580 days ago.

harryanderson

Please learn how to read with understanding.

“The three warmest years in the GISTEMP analysis, 2014, 2010, and 2005 IN THAT ORDER, can be considered to be in a statistical tie because of several sources of uncertainty."(emphasis added)

Posted 580 days ago.

harryanderson

I meant that last for ohwiseone, not stillhere.

Posted 580 days ago.

harryanderson

You're right, stillhere. No amount of scientific proof will be good enough for some. It never has been on any issue in history.

Posted 580 days ago.

harryanderson

I was told to find my own source, and I did. I found the best one—the paper on which NASA based its press release. There is no controversy there.

The authors conclude, “The three warmest years in the GISTEMP analysis, 2014, 2010, and 2005 in that order, can be considered to be in a statistical tie because of several sources of uncertainty, the largest source being incomplete spatial coverage of the data. Similarly the next warmest years in our analysis, 1998, 2002, 2003, 2006, 2007, 2009 and 2013, can be taken as a statistical tie for the 4th through the 10th in our analysis. The 15 warmest years all occurred since 1998 .”

I don’t mind being transparent about my sources. Here it is. ht tp://ww w.columbia.edu/~jeh1/mailings/2015/20150116_Temperature2014.pdf

Posted 580 days ago.

harryanderson

If you expect me to find my own source, I have an excellent one in mind. It comes from scientists.

I have a lot of work to do today. I'll try to get back this evening to check out your source or to give my opinion based on the scientific literature.

Posted 580 days ago.

harryanderson

You said we should be "reading the fine print." I'm willing to do so, if you'll say where the fine print can be found. I suspect your quote is cherry-picked. Your statements usually are.

Posted 580 days ago.

harryanderson

You challenged me to respond to your quote. How can I respond properly if I have to guess among "many places"?

Posted 580 days ago.

harryanderson

Where did you get that quote? It interests me.

Posted 580 days ago.

moderation

dot com

Posted 581 days ago.

moderation

Try this Harry. ens-newswire****

Posted 581 days ago.

harryanderson

Stillhere, you posted,

"Yet the Nasa press release failed to mention this, as well as the fact that the alleged ‘record’ amounted to an increase over 2010, the previous ‘warmest year’, of just two-hundredths of a degree – or 0.02C. The margin of error is said by scientists to be approximately 0.1C – several times as much."

I'd like to check this out. I'm sure those aren't your words. From where did you lift that quote?

Posted 581 days ago.

moderation

Gettin' dinner together for my wife,yak later!

Posted 581 days ago.

moderation

Monica is talking funding.She said"might".Maybe there was deception,maybe not. The point is,the authors stand by their word.There were fluctuations in temperatures all over the earth. There were many different instruments measuring land, water, and atmosphere, in muchos locations.The average was a small change, as one would expect. However, it is a fact,that it doesn't take much chage in land temperature,or rainfall or the warming or cooling of oceans currents to affect the behaviors of organisms.I don't trust 'big business'

Posted 581 days ago.

moderation

This was not part of the report released. "Nasa admits this means it is far from certain that 2014 set a record at all."

Posted 581 days ago.

moderation

tired- those reports say it was the hottest year.

Posted 581 days ago.

moderation

Do you have any verified info that says it isn't, tired?

Posted 582 days ago.

harryanderson

I'd say moderation means that quibbling over the amount of warming in any particular year is far less important than the long-term trend of dramatic warming.

Posted 582 days ago.

moderation

I don't understand this double posting.

Posted 582 days ago.
 
 
 
 

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