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156 days ago.
by slinky
harryanderson
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Thankfully, the anti-science propaganda campaign surrounding man-made climate change seems to have lost some of its effect.

Are you seeing storm clouds on the horizon? Two recent studies suggest that the latest anti-science campaign is following its forerunners--the propaganda campaigns attempting to refute science that tobacco causes cancer, that CFC's caused the hole in the ozone layer, and so on—into oblivion. Global warming denial seems to have climbed to a peak in 2010, and global warming acceptance is now climbing. This bodes well for rational public policy.

 
 

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mythravere

Fear happens to be one of the main influences on conservatives of Tiredofits stripe.

They fear so much. Fear isn't a bad thing though its just something that has to be kept in check.

Take a conspiracy theorist for example. The fear of what they think is in the works is so paralyzing that they can not and will not acknowledge a fact that counters an idea they hold.

Fear is the mindkiller.

Posted 1094 days ago.

harryanderson

I knew of a boy whose family moved several states away. His new neighborhood had several bullies in it. The boy’s Dad warned him that he would have to fight, and advised the boy to take on the biggest bully first. When the biggest bully shoved him, the boy fought back and received a black eye for his efforts.

But the boy gained courage, which, according to Theodore Roosevelt, only comes from facing danger.

In the months afterwards, the lesser bullies in the neighborhood tried to pick on the smaller boy a few times, but they always weaseled out when he stood his ground.

Here’s the irony: Most of the bullies who weaseled probably could have whipped the boy, but they lacked courage, which put them at a disadvantage.

Courage keeps the mind productive, but fear paralyzes it.

As the Bible says, “We have not been given a spirit of fear, but of power and of love and of a sound mind.”

Posted 1094 days ago.

mythravere

Yep billions of tons of carbon being released into the atmosphere does nothing to said atmosphere!

Another one bites the dust!

Posted 1094 days ago.

mythravere

One could add a fifth box and pump some methane into it along with a mixture of normal air and Co2 that correlates with global co2 levels.

I am not sure how it could be done but it would be necessary to add humidity in the mix to replicate the effect of water vapor on the temperature along with the gas mix and how it affects the temps also.

Posted 1095 days ago.

mythravere

And just so you know tired of it. The question of whether or not Co2 is indeed a heat trapping gas is testable even by folks like you and me.

Four plexiglas boxes and some co2 and o2 is all you need. Plus some temperature sensors.

I'd go into detail on how to do it but I gotta feeling you could care less.

Posted 1095 days ago.

mythravere

"Harry I don't need to prove a thing to you"

I have told others on here that if you have the facts to back up your claims you have nothing to fear in putting those facts on the table.

Anyone that makes a claim and will not back it up is being dishonest.

Simple as that.

Posted 1095 days ago.

harryanderson

“Since you cannot prove that there is a God and that the earth was formed in 6 days, and we all came from Adam and Eve I will say your belief is without merit as well.”

I didn’t ask you to believe these things. If you say that my belief “that there is a God” is “without merit,” you certainly have the right to do so!

My belief in God is a matter of faith. Matters of faith aren’t based on evidence, just as your belief that ““funding is dependent (sic) on those findings” is a matter of faith.

Posted 1095 days ago.

harryanderson

True. You don't have to prove a thing to me.

Since you can't (or won't) provide evidence to support your claim, I'm at liberty to judge that no evidence supports your claim, and that said claim is unworthy of serious consideration.

Posted 1095 days ago.

harryanderson

“Harry can you prove they are not?” Of course not. I’m fully aware that it’s futile to try and prove a negative. That’s why I made no such claim. I can’t back it up.

You, on the other hand. did make a claim. You claimed that the “majority of government funded researchers who funding is dependant on those findings.”

Looking past the syntax, I take that to mean that you’re claiming the majority of government-funded climate researchers, in order to receive further grants, must find that humans are causing significant climate change.

Is that what you’re claiming? If not, what are you claiming? If so, can you back up that claim with evidence?

Posted 1095 days ago.

harryanderson

“…majority of government funded researchers who funding is dependant on those findings.”

But you’ve already admitted, Tiredofit, that you can cite no climate science grants that are tied to results.

We dealt with this 127 days ago on the “Okay, gun fetish…” thread. At that time, you posted the following: “No one give grants with a condition attached as far as I know, but they do invest in research that has an outcome they like.”

So how can you now say “funding is dependent (sic) on those findings”?

Do you have new information that you didn’t have 127 days ago?

Posted 1095 days ago.

harryanderson

I told you once that I would no longer employ the phrase “anti-science propaganda campaign,” Tiredofit. I certainly didn’t mean to offend you when I used it.

Maybe I should have called it “the propaganda campaign to discredit the conclusions of almost all the climate scientists who publish on the issue.”

It’s a bit wordy, but it may have been considered inoffensive. I’m all for trying to avoid giving offense.

Posted 1095 days ago.

mythravere

Logic makes up for it.

Posted 1095 days ago.

mythravere

Oh and just so you know I really dont have an inflated view of self worth. I am stuck in a dead end job because I'm horrible at math. I had to take special classes because I was so bad at it. My inabilities put me square at the bottom of the ladder in the grand scheme of things.

Nothing more than another face with a boot stomped into it...

Posted 1096 days ago.

mythravere

Nah! I'd really like to see the justification behind how you deal with Harry and what he brings to the table.

I mean you Republicans are the standard bearers for having impeccable manners and such.

Oh good example. The cleanliness of the sites you guys protest at. Left immaculate! WOW!

But when it comes to reasoning and rationale.....you guys crap all over everything.

Clean in one way dirty in another.

Posted 1096 days ago.

mythravere

I think you should explain to this forum why it is you show such disrespect for Harry when he directs nothing toward you...at all!

Acting that way toward Harry reflects poorly on your character.

But thats pretty much par for the course when it comes to how the right deals with people that they find in opposition to the positions they cling to.

Its one of the Bushiites cornerstone policies.

If you aint with us(apparently in totality)then you're against us.

Posted 1096 days ago.

mythravere

Say it aint so! I never woulda figured!

Posted 1096 days ago.

mythravere

And Republicans wonder why they get little respect? LOL! You gotta give it to get it.

Here's the thing. And this just proves that people on the right like Tiredofit are card carrying as5holes.

Me and my dealings with people like you I can understand you mouthing me back. I aint exactly nice when I try and make my points.

Harry on the other hand? I can not recall him being gruff or short with you not even once. He has repeatedly tried the civil approach with you in trying to discuss issues with you.

Instead of reciprocating and doing unto others as you would have them do unto you....you cut Harry down for what he believes...you try and drag him through the mud.....you flat out disrespect him.

All the while Harry maintains his decorum.

Thats rather slimy of you Tired.

Posted 1096 days ago.

harryanderson

A NY male dancer named Laurent got a job with the traveling company of a Broadway show. The show visited his hometown. One night, while walking through a his old downtown haunts, Laurent heard moans coming from an alley. He looked in the alley and discovered a man who had been severely beaten by some local toughs. Laurent turned the man over. The man’s eyes were swollen shut. He had been beaten so badly that he had lost one of his work boots.

Laurent, who had been inspired by the story of the Good Samaritan, leaned the man against a wall and said, “I’ll help you get some medical care. I’ll even pay for it.”

The man forced one eye open. He could only open it enough to see Laurent’s patent leather shoes. The man shuddered and ordered, “Leave me alone. I don’t want no help from people like you.”

Laurent obediently walked on. The next morning, some passersby found the man dead. The coroner said he had died only an hour before.

Posted 1097 days ago.

mythravere

This is hilarious. Tiredofit Harry is trying to have just a simple rational discussion with you on the topic of using coal wisely....LOL!

And you are having none of it. That speaks volumes about you.

Posted 1097 days ago.

harryanderson

This thread isn't about creation.

Posted 1097 days ago.
 
 
 
 

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