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158 days ago.
by slinky
harryanderson
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Thankfully, the anti-science propaganda campaign surrounding man-made climate change seems to have lost some of its effect.

Are you seeing storm clouds on the horizon? Two recent studies suggest that the latest anti-science campaign is following its forerunners--the propaganda campaigns attempting to refute science that tobacco causes cancer, that CFC's caused the hole in the ozone layer, and so on—into oblivion. Global warming denial seems to have climbed to a peak in 2010, and global warming acceptance is now climbing. This bodes well for rational public policy.

 
 

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harryanderson

Good catch, Kendall.

Even the climate scientist hyped by Tiredofit for political reasons believes, when she puts on her scientist cap, that atmospheric carbon contributes to global warming,

Another true believer, eh?

Tiredofit is hoisted by his own petard again.

That’s the bottom line, not politics.

Posted 950 days ago.

harryanderson

Once again, Tiredofit, you show yourself, and distort what I wrote.

By saying “talking outside of her field,” I clearly meant unlearned in politics. You however, deceptively choose to ignore the qualification and focus on the catchall word unlearned.

Posted 950 days ago.

Kendall78

"My research experience and interests include the science and societal impact of air pollution. In particular, I focus on black carbon (BC) pollution, which is a by-product of incomplete combustion, both natural and anthropogenic. BC contributes to climate warming and is linked to a range of health problems, including premature mortality." (Monika Kopacz)

So Tired, you agree with her that black carbon contributes to global warming?

Posted 950 days ago.

harryanderson

We're talking past each other. I refer to the science, and you refer to the politics.

I refuse to be swayed by political hype.

I repeat: an overwhelming majority of the climate scientists most published in peer reviewed journals agree with the tenets of the IPCC.

That's the bottom line, not your politics.

Posted 950 days ago.

harryanderson

So here’s the genuinely important part:

Among those scientists most published in peer-reviewed journals and most cited, a large majority agree with the tenets of the International Panel on Climate Change.

These scientists are expressing their opinions within their fields of learning.

Posted 950 days ago.

harryanderson

“Harry, did you even read the quote?”

Sure I did, but I don’t consider “MONIKA KOPACZ Applied Mathematics and Atmospheric Sciences Harvard University Cambridge, Mass” an expert on politics, anymore than I consider Al Gore an expert on science.

You’ve only provided an opinion by someone talking outside her field of learning. Anyone can have an unlearned opinion. Unlearned opinions aren’t acceptable evidence.

Posted 950 days ago.

harryanderson

“Results=funding”

Tiredofit, You have made that claim again and again, and we have asked you to provide substantiation for your claim again and again. You have provided none.

Why do you keep repeating this claim for which you apparently haven’t a shred of evidence?

Posted 950 days ago.

mythravere

Of course that is already happening for other reasons. The right is just one big cluster phuck of stupid right now.

Whats funny is that the Tea Party is the force that is ripping it all apart.

Posted 950 days ago.

mythravere

I say do nothing about Climate Change at all. Stop funding any research into it and then....wait.

When the nasty effects start hitting us..just point a finger.

Those who denied it will find themselves without any kind of representation in government real quick.

I say let them impale themselves.

Posted 950 days ago.

harryanderson

I agree with most of Tiredofit's post, except the part about funding more research. If the models are uncertain, we should fund research to increase the reliability of the models.

Tiredofit seems to have concluded there is no danger. However, scientists have provided ample evidence to show there may be danger. Let's do more research to find out for sure.

Posted 950 days ago.

mythravere

Imbecile! LOL!

Always cracks me up.

Posted 951 days ago.

Kendall78

@Thats- do you have a citation for that info you just gave?

Posted 951 days ago.

Thatsabsurd

Straight from the imbecile Climate Scientistees mouths' They will not include the polar temperatures in their ongoing scam as it will alter their data differently than the outcomes desired"

Globewarmers have to be the most ridiculous humans alive imbecile is too good of a word for these idiots

Posted 951 days ago.

mythravere

Iceberg over Ohio? You gotta be kidding me?

Definition: a large floating mass of ice detached from a glacier or ice sheet and carried out to sea.

Glacier Tiredofit glacier.

Posted 951 days ago.

Kendall78

Proof has been offered to support the claim that current global warming is due to in part by man.

Your offering up the MWP isn't exactly proof because you haven't said what caused it to happen and how that connects to what is going on now.

Posted 951 days ago.

Kendall78

You obviously have no concept what it means to carry a burden of proof.

The statement that; The overall temperature of the Earth is rising is agreed by all of us right?

If so, then two positive & generalized claims have been made.

1) Current Global Warming is due in part or fully by the actions of mankind.

2) Current Global Warming is due to natural fluctuations.

Both are positive claims and the burden of proving them rides on those that make them. So you are incorrect, you also have the burden to prove your position.

Posted 951 days ago.

Kendall78

Seven responses and not a answer in there anywhere...just blabber. Well, actually to break it down we have:

3 comments about icebergs in Ohio

1 comment about the medieval warming period with no connection given to the here and now beyond wishful thinking. Ignoring also that the current global temps are higher than the MWP was.

4 accusations of ties with organizations I have no connection to

So in the end we have Tired behaving like other famous denier groups who throw accusations, deny facts and try to connect issues that are not related.

Posted 951 days ago.

Kendall78

And the non-scientific comments begin to flow, thank you for not disappointing Tired.

So what is that now? Over a hundred non-answers to very basic scientific questions. The end result is that you don't have a clue what you are talking about and never did. All you have is faith that you are correct, which is not much to go on at all.

Yes or no, can you show that the rise in overall global temperatures can be attributed to only natural causes?

Posted 951 days ago.

Kendall78

Tired, you say that one cannot reproduce the experiment of man made global warming but how could you know that this warming is due to nature? You can't recreate an experiment to show it's all natural can you?

Posted 951 days ago.

Kendall78

"You cannot debate what you don't understand, Shortbus"

Curious, do you call African-Americans the n-word? Do you call those with mental disabilities the r-word? I ask because that shortbus crack was just as insensitive and closed minded as I have seen on here.

Posted 951 days ago.
 
 
 
 

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