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1 day ago.
by Stillhere
harryanderson
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Thankfully, the anti-science propaganda campaign surrounding man-made climate change seems to have lost some of its effect.

Are you seeing storm clouds on the horizon? Two recent studies suggest that the latest anti-science campaign is following its forerunners--the propaganda campaigns attempting to refute science that tobacco causes cancer, that CFC's caused the hole in the ozone layer, and so on—into oblivion. Global warming denial seems to have climbed to a peak in 2010, and global warming acceptance is now climbing. This bodes well for rational public policy.

 
 

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harryanderson

Second problem: Lindzen’s confident predictions that global warming will cause no harm. The Weekly Standard reports:

“Lindzen also disputes the accuracy of the computer models that climate scientists rely on to project future temperatures. He contends that they oversimplify the vast complexity of the Earth’s climate and, moreover, that it’s impossible to untangle man’s effect on the climate from natural variability.”

The climate IS complex, but here’s Lindzen’s problem: If it’s “impossible to untangle man’s effect on the climate from natural variability,” how can Lindzen predict that global warming will result in no harm?

Lindzen contradicts himself.

If predictions are impossible, why are Lindzen’s own predictions any better than the predictions of the majority of other climate scientists? Again, Lindzen behaves like those he criticizes.

Posted 250 days ago.

harryanderson

First problem: The Weekly Standard shows Lindzen’s political bias.

“One frustrating feature of the climate debate is that people’s outlook on global warming usually correlates with their political views. So if a person wants low taxes and restrictions on abortion, he probably isn’t worried about climate change. And if a person supports gay marriage and raising the minimum wage, he most likely thinks the threat from global warming warrants costly public-policy remedies. And of course, even though Lindzen is an accomplished climate scientist, he has his own political outlook—a conservative one. “

So, while Lindzen accuses others of having a political agenda, he has one himself. He’s behaving like those he criticizes.

Posted 250 days ago.

harryanderson

Dr. Lindzen is worthy of serious consideration. For example,

“Lindzen doesn’t deny that the climate has changed or that the planet has warmed. ‘We all agree that temperature has increased since 1800,’ he tells me. There’s a caveat, though: It’s increased by ‘a very small amount. We’re talking about tenths of a degree [Celsius]. We all agree that CO2 is a greenhouse gas. All other things kept equal, [there has been] some warming. As a result, there’s hardly anyone serious who says that man has no role. And in many ways, those have never been the questions. The questions have always been, as they ought to be in science, how much?’”

htt p://ww w.weeklystandard.co m/articles/what-catastrophe_773268.html?page=2

But I have two problems with Lindzen: I think he lets his political agenda color his thinking and I wonder about his predictions. In both of these areas, Lindzen behaves a lot like those whom he criticizes.

Posted 250 days ago.

Ohwiseone

Rush ites !Now even the censures hate Rush !

Posted 250 days ago.

Ohwiseone

And still you deflect or deny the truth ! The point that your right-wing training lacks is the one thing you all refuse to answer !Who is going to make money and how are they earning it ,by warning folks that we need to take care of our planet ? And I am by far not a "liberal" ! But I detest the way you Ru****es use it like its a swear word !And the "hate , war on women is well documented as coming from your side ! And again , the republican strategy of denial,deflection and lie, lie, lie wont help you shake that off !

Posted 250 days ago.

Ohwiseone can't post without his obsession with faux, whatever that is. Liberals are lost without the words faux, hate, Koch bros., racism and war on women. Lol Most people have never heard of the Koch bros. Soros is much more famous.

Posted 250 days ago.

Ohwiseone

Again , all it is , is proof that you are indeed a very small mind in a very big world !

Posted 250 days ago.

Ohwiseone

And you still haven't answered this question !Who is going to make money and how are they earning it ,by warning folks that we need to take care of our planet ? Well..... we are still waiting !!

Posted 250 days ago.

Ohwiseone

Here's some rebuttal for you ! You still haven't addressed the fact that the Arctic has lost about 70% of its total volume of sea ice over the past three decades. Was it magic or maybe aliens stole the Ice ? One things for sure , it's not there anymore !

Posted 250 days ago.

Stillhere

I think Dr Lindzen was right.

Posted 250 days ago.

Stillhere

First rate rebuttals from the peanut gallery lololol

Posted 250 days ago.

Ohwiseone

And again , The tiredbrain troll posted here that it has a job now that rewards its excellance ! Well exactly when does it go to work ? Its on here 24/7/365 ! Seems another not so true claim from our local mindless minion of Faux !

Posted 250 days ago.

Ohwiseone

You still haven't addressed the fact that the Arctic has lost about 70% of its total volume of sea ice over the past three decades. Was it magic or maybe aliens stole the Ice ? One things for sure , it's not there anymore ! Talk about having NO ANSWERS !!!! Deny deflect but whats sure is you got nothing !

Posted 250 days ago.

Ohwiseone

You righties still haven't answered this question !Who is going to make money and how are they earning it ,by warning folks that we need to take care of our planet ?

Posted 250 days ago.

mythravere

Oh and I hate to point this out again. Stillhere formerly known as Tiredofit it got banned on this site and the Marietta Times site.

It takes a certain amount of bitterness to post in a manner that gets you banned. Just sayin.

Posted 250 days ago.

mythravere

"The level of bitterness they bring is quite clear but a rational person would have to wonder why."

LOL! Really? This from the guy who repeatedly calls out people as socialists when they plainly state they are not. This from the guy who repeatedly stated that those who believe in the validity of this issue are wanting to see the government take over the energy industry? Even after we said we do not support such actions.

THIS from the guy who on the Marrietta Times forum resorted to calling another poster a fluffer?

This from the guy who made fun of and used against me a math disability I stated I had. Repeatedly using the term shortbus.

Really? LOL! Such hypocrisy.

Posted 250 days ago.

mythravere

"And they ARE socialists, some like Myth are just not bright enough to realize the ultimate end to their goals." Stillhere

There you go falsely equating me with a political movement I do not subscribe to.

But I do understand why you do that.

Its a doubt casting tactic.

All that does is show that this issue and your disagreement with it is of a political nature.

After all why would you point out (falsely) the political leanings of people if it was just about the facts of the issue itself?

Posted 250 days ago.

mythravere

LOL! Then you claim as you have before that our interest in this issue has reached the level of religion.

Well the same can be said about you.

This crusade is so important to you that you just had to come back after getting banned.

Posted 250 days ago.

mythravere

"Perhaps that explains the visceral reaction by posters on this forum NO?" Stillhere.

Oh goodness lol!

If anyone is having a visceral reaction its you buckwheat.

All one has to do is to look at how you debate.

I mean it wasn't I who got banned off of two sites because of my behaviour.

That was you. And here you are back under another username doing the same things that got you booted before.

Posted 250 days ago.

Stillhere

“Global Warming has become a religion,” writes Lindzen. “A surprisingly large number of people seem to have concluded that all that gives meaning to their lives is the belief that they are saving the planet by paying attention to their carbon footprint.”

Perhaps that explains the visceral reaction by posters on this forum NO?

Posted 251 days ago.
 
 
 
 

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