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62 days ago.
by slinky
harryanderson
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Thankfully, the anti-science propaganda campaign surrounding man-made climate change seems to have lost some of its effect.

Are you seeing storm clouds on the horizon? Two recent studies suggest that the latest anti-science campaign is following its forerunners--the propaganda campaigns attempting to refute science that tobacco causes cancer, that CFC's caused the hole in the ozone layer, and so on—into oblivion. Global warming denial seems to have climbed to a peak in 2010, and global warming acceptance is now climbing. This bodes well for rational public policy.

 
 

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Kendall78

"NO more proof than any other warming or cooling cycle were man made"

Except that this warming trend does not fall into the historical norms. The only different factor is the industrialization of society brought by mankind.

Again, if you have another provable possibility...show us your proof and we will consider it. Otherwise, why are you wasting your time?

Posted 639 days ago.

Kendall78

"I don't have to prove they are not, cannot prove a negative"

I have never once EVER asked you to prove a negative. I have many times to prove your unsaid assertion that something else is causing the current climate change. You have not done that.

I also asked you to show that CO2 doesn't have the properties of a "greenhouse gas" but that it has the properties of a safe gas. You have not. I don't think you can.

Posted 639 days ago.

Kendall78

"That's why you are losing the argument."

What argument am I losing? I back up my assertions with research and cite that information.

You....don't.

Posted 639 days ago.

Kendall78

"but that IS NOT PROOF"

So the rise in temperatures during the last 100 years is not proof?

Curious, what would you consider proof? Don't deflect...answer the question because I think everyone would be interested in knowing what you consider to be proof.

Posted 639 days ago.

Kendall78

"SO KENDALL IS MORE..."

Ignoring the childish screaming, I never once said I was more intelligent than her. But facts have very little to do with her comment now doesn't it?

No where in her comment does she state that she can prove that scientists exgaggerate. Also, in no way does her comments show that mankind does not effect climate change.

So Tired, you are still left without any evidence supporting your position. Back to square 1 with you.

Posted 639 days ago.

Kendall78

"So, yes, climate scientists might exaggerate"

See that word "might". Some similiar words are: perhaps or imaginably.

So just because they "might" does not mean they do. You have to prove that they (the entire global warming community) exaggerate. Good luck.

Posted 639 days ago.

Kendall78

"that quote"

What quote are you dithering about now? I was commenting on your own insane babblings.

What you don't like are the facts when they don't go with your belief.

Fact, the past 17 years are hotter than the previous 17.

Fact, the oceans have been getting warmer in the last 2 decades.

No amount of posturing or deflection changes that Tired.

Posted 639 days ago.

Kendall78

"It is no secret that a lot of climate-change research is subject to opinion.."

No it's not a matter of opinion. You are more then welcome to give your uneducated opinion on what you think it means but that's why it's an opinion; you don't understand it and are guessing.

Posted 639 days ago.

Kendall78

"no warming in 17 years."

That's actually a lie. There has been a rise in warming in the oceans.

Also, the land temps have been hotter these last 17 years than the previous 17 years.

Posted 639 days ago.

Kendall78

"predicted the Arctic would be ice-free this summer."

Congrats...you shown that a single man was incorrect in a prediction.

But how does this counteract everything that we know and have seen in regards to Climate Change? Oh yeah...it doesn't.

You do realize that just because a prediction didn't pan out, that doesn't mean it's proof against the theory itself right?

I mean, a person could "predict" that humanity will evolve into a being with a IQ of 1,000 in 200 years. If that didn't happen, would that mean evolution isn't true?

Posted 639 days ago.

Kendall78

"I know I am right lol"

Except when you are wrong..lol.

Posted 643 days ago.

Kendall78

"we are not in an ice age so yeah climate does change."

No one has implied that climate doesn't change. not one person.

Posted 643 days ago.

Kendall78

Just something to read and consider: w w w.scientificamerican.c om/article/oceans-hid-the-heat-and-slowed-pace-of-global-warming/

Posted 643 days ago.

Kendall78

"once again I have demonstrated that he doesn't have ONE no not ONE single fact"

Actually, I have given facts. I have given citations.

The only thing you ahve proven is you have no facts, no citations and no coherent theories why the global temps are at all time highs.

Posted 644 days ago.

Kendall78

"Now he is trying the ole, PROVE that man DOESNT cause it."

No..I'm not trying that at all. I am asking you to prove that CO2 doesn't have the attributes that would make it absorb heat energy.

I asked you why you trust Florida State University?

I asked you for your theory on why the climate and global warming are not following after historic trends if it's not due to man.

I have a feeling you have no answers to these questions.

Posted 644 days ago.

Kendall78

"The PROOF you lack is that MAN has caused it"

Actually no...while climate does change of it's own accord (no one ever says it doesn't) the current changes in global temps and climate do not fit in the models of the past.

The only difference? The growth of mankind and our technology around the world.

Now if you have an evidence or even coherent theories as to why the global temps and climate are going outside established historical norms....please tell us why and give us your evidence.

Posted 644 days ago.

Kendall78

"Geographers Link Tornado Strength To Climate Change"

Why do you believe Florida State University Tired? Wait...is this an appeal to Authority?

Are you being a hypocrite...again?

Posted 644 days ago.

Kendall78

Name calling Tired? Have you ran out of copy paste already?

I have put up a lot of information that you ignored. You on the other hand have offered no facts, no sources and no original thought.

Posted 644 days ago.

Kendall78

"17 years of no increase in temperature"

Ithink...you do realize that the temperature has been higher than average for the last 17 years right?

Like I explained earlier...if the murder rate of a city jumps by 10% every year for 20 years and then levels off....did the problem go away? No...it's still there.

Posted 644 days ago.

Kendall78

"is NOT about climate rather its redistributive socialist propaganda."

Look at Tired showing his true colors again by trying to make this about politics. He just wants to move his agenda forward by ignoring facts.

Posted 644 days ago.
 
 
 
 

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