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92 days ago.
by slinky
harryanderson
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Thankfully, the anti-science propaganda campaign surrounding man-made climate change seems to have lost some of its effect.

Are you seeing storm clouds on the horizon? Two recent studies suggest that the latest anti-science campaign is following its forerunners--the propaganda campaigns attempting to refute science that tobacco causes cancer, that CFC's caused the hole in the ozone layer, and so on—into oblivion. Global warming denial seems to have climbed to a peak in 2010, and global warming acceptance is now climbing. This bodes well for rational public policy.

 
 

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Kendall78

You are so funny Tired. We have asked you and whomever else is on your side of the argument for any proof of your argument. You give none and then want others to provide you with info. You are so intellectually lazy.

At least Greek makes an attempt and I can respect that.

Posted 652 days ago.

Kendall78

"Warming has ceased in the last 15- 17 years."

Be more specific if you can. Do you mean warming has ceased in the atmosphere? In the Oceans?

Is the last 17 years warmer than the 17 years that came before it?

You still haven't defined what you will consider proof in these arguments. Don't you know what you will consider proof?

Posted 652 days ago.

Kendall78

"Show me how to prove a negative"

No one has asked you to prove a negative.

Is this your fallback plan? Keep claiming it's proving the negative so you won't have to do anything?

Posted 652 days ago.

Kendall78

"And this schmuck says he's interested in honest debate?"

He constantly lies.

Lol, it does seem like he has confusion over what proof and truth is.

Posted 652 days ago.

mythravere

Not one more iota of proof will be given to you unless you backup your own claims.

But that's a tactic you use to hide from any kind of criticism.

Posted 652 days ago.

mythravere

The fact is if you are right Tiredofit and I am wrong. Then the facts support you not me.

Ergo you have the upperhand in this debate.

I can not fathom why you will not provide those facts that make you right.

Furthermore complaining that proof isn't provided to you while refusing to provide your own proof to back up your own assertions is highly hypocritical.

Posted 652 days ago.

mythravere

270 pages worth of arguing. The vast majority of which was of me and the others putting info on the table that proves our assertion.

The information you seek as been offered up in spades. You just choose to deny it or ignore it.

So you asking for information and then making out like we have none because we aren't giving it to you is tremendously disingenuous.

But that's par for the course when dealing with you.

Its just one of the many tactics you use to try and shutdown/control this debate.

Posted 652 days ago.

mythravere

But then yet agains we have another problem.

In the past he has stated that even though there is warming man isn't responsible for it.

But now he is stating that there is no warming.

We know the planet is warming. There just is not denying that.

But these inconsistencies are interesting. And so is his refusal to back up his assertions.

Either he is being contrary. Or he has no facts with which to back up his assertions.

Posted 652 days ago.

mythravere

His assertion being positive. Meaning they have facts to back them up.

Our assertion being negative. Meaning not the truth therefore lacking in the ability to be proven as true.

Edited for clarity

Posted 652 days ago.

mythravere

But then it gets even better. You know Tiredofit says that we are wrong and that he is right.

His facts being positive. Meaning they have facts to back them up.

Our facts being negative. Meaning not the truth therefore lacking in the ability to be proven as true.

Now one would assume Tiredofit is interested in "winning" this debate. Furthermore one would assume that since his position is the true one it'd be very easy to prove his position.

All he has to do is prove that he is right.

Which is to show why all the warming can be blamed on natural causes.

But for some reason he won't do that.

Hmmm?

Posted 652 days ago.

mythravere

Aaah man you gotta love it. For months on end we repeatedly laid proof after proof on the table.

Of course Tiredofit it rejected all of it.

Now that we have figured out that he will reject any proof we put on the table. We stop providing it because you know lesson learned.

But now Tiredofit is asking for proof(that we already provided)and making it looks as if we dont have anything to show as proof. Or that we are refusing to show proof.

And this schmuck says he's interested in honest debate?

LOL!

Posted 652 days ago.

Kendall78

"I don't want to take your 100 bucks"

Oh there is very little chance of that. You won't go out to conduct even a simple chat with a real person.

Posted 653 days ago.

Kendall78

"PROOF that mans production of co2 is warming the planet SIMPLE"

It is that simple. Odd how you don't understand it. Guess you are less than simple ;)

Posted 653 days ago.

Kendall78

You kep saying I am making excuses but I have asked many many times for your definition of what you will consider "proof".

When you give that definition, then I am certain it will be provided to you. As long as what you call proof is reasonable.

So Tired...will you please tell us what you would consider proof? Or will you deflect, call people names or deny deny deny anything people will show you?

Posted 653 days ago.

Kendall78

"I KNOW there is no proof in there and so do you."

That would be a lie. There is no proof you will accept is more accurate.

Posted 653 days ago.

Kendall78

Oh..if it were possible...I would love to do a contest in geography against you.

But alas, we know you won't come out of your momma's basement any time soon.

Oh the ego...I make an error in where Europe begins in relationship to Crimea and Tired thinks he is natrually better in general. He wasn't even thinking of Crimea when he made his Europe comment.

I would bet $100 that he didn't even know what the Bosphprus Straits were when I mentioned them earlier.

You are a card Tired. Now let's get back on topic. You can dwell on Crimea back in the other forum.

Posted 653 days ago.

Kendall78

"lol that made NO sense."

Why?

Posted 653 days ago.

Kendall78

And please keep checking back Tired...it's a fun game getting you all tightly wound up :)

There is tons of pages showing that we have offered facts. Sadly for you, I don't think there is one page worth of facts from your side of the argument.

Posted 653 days ago.

Kendall78

"Man has nothing to do with changing the climate NEGATIVE ASSERTION.."

And I have never asked you to prove this now have I?

I have asked you to prove that the current change in global temperature is natural as you have claimed but yet you cower from it.

I believe it's because you know there is something not natural about it but won't admit when you are wrong.

Posted 653 days ago.

Kendall78

You ahve hundreds of pages worth of information where people have supplied you with facts.

In chosing to ignore them for whatever reason you might have, you have only shown that you are inept in mature intellectual conversations.

Posted 653 days ago.
 
 
 
 

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