Have at it.
I posted that on the wrong thread. Sorry.
I predict this popular support for the new rules will erode under the propaganda campaign already unleashed by the Counter Climate Change Movement.
Sen. Paul has called the new rule "illegal."
Sen. McConnell has called it "an end run around Congress."
Rep, David McKinley, in his press release, spoke of Obama "circumvent(ing) Congress."
Of course they mispeak, since the Supreme Court ruled on the legality of this move before Obama even became President. The SC said the EPA has the authority under the Clean Air Act.
The propaganda and lies are already flying. If past is prelude, they will change public perception,
But they can't change the laws of physics. That's why Heartland honcho Joe Bast may boast of winning the policy and opinion debates, but lament being frustrated by the scientific debate.
And we see this bull crap way of thinking displayed by the likes of Tiredofit.
Who by the way is probably I am sure a decent individual. And I mean that honestly.
Its just frustrating as hades that you can't talk with people like that.
How can anyone knowingly make a statement like Brian Kilmeade did knowing full well its a hypocritical statement?
Either he really is that dense upstairs or the man is a well paid puppet who just says what he is told too.
And all this amounts to is a low blow sort of attack that is the hallmark of a cowardly and childish political establishment that really has no boundaries that is will not cross in seeking political power.
Take what Brian Kilmeade said of Bob Bergdahl. Brian pretty much equated the mans beard growth with supporting terrorists.
But when you follow the logic it gets interesting.
According to Brian Kilmeade whom I might add has lots of followers on the right who agree with him. (Remember Fox News has the best ratings!) Having a beard means you support terrorism or whatever.
BUT WHAT ABOUT THE GUYS FROM DUCK DYNASTY?
They got beards? But oh let me guess the aint the terrorist loving type are they?
Because why? Double standards with a massive heap of hypocrisy is why!
"But the 5 terrorists who were released by Obama will most certainly kill more innocent people."
Oh Tiredofit you're just a typical rightwing echo chamber.
I mean this..idiocy is getting rather bad.
"When it comes to religion and science, there is no reason that they cannot coexist."
As I said before, I think they can.
When it comes to religion and science, there is no reason that they cannot coexist.
As for the literal view of creation, most people that follow the Abrahamic faiths don't believe in the literal story of Genesis and never really have.
Yes, but they won't be our responsibility anymore. Nor are the actions of these men our responsibility. We can't proceed with what could happen because anything could happen.
"I am a Christian and believe in God as well as the saving grace of Jesus."
Well, I am glad for that.
"I have presented evidence or at least reasons I come to my conclusions but you reject them and that's fine."
I have rejected your conclusions because of the lack of evidence. You attempt to deflect by saying what is possible against that which is fact.
You cannot say there is no global warming and it's is all a political ploy and not provide facts. The fact that their are government agencies that provide funds for climate change research does not mean that the research is tainted. This is were you have always failed at....showing the connection.
"It is not my plan to convert you."
No, it's your plan to offer up your opinion and try to back it up with facts. You fail at this. You also fail to answer relevant questions when given to you.
It is irrelevant to me how many days it took. Climate Change will also not be of any substance But the 5 terrorists who were released by Obama will most certainly kill more innocent people.
Tired, of course I think people can come to different conclusions from avaialable evidence.
However, when most people have a different viewpoint, they tend to explain their different viewpoint and show how the evidence supports it.
You don't do that. That's not an insult but a fact.
So you're done with insults, Tiredofit?
Good to hear. I always knew you were better than that.
"You have not a shred of actual evidence of climate change or global warming other than what a small group of well paid people tell you."
No, unlike you...we actually think and are not sheep. As for me, I take in all viewpoints I can from all sides and think which makes the most sense.
You fail at making your viewpoint on climate change relevant.
Good catch, Tiredofit. I should not have said "God had a hand in the process."
That unfortunate statement reflects neither the poll nor my views. I retract it. Sorry for the confusion I caused when I used it.
God did not "have a hand in the process." God was the process.
Thanks for bringing this up and letting me correct myself.
Again. According to the Gallup poll, that 40% of scientists accept both the Biblical account and the geologic evidence.
So what definition of creationism are you using?
Your right that the 1991 Gallup poll found only 5% of scientists to be creationists --using THEIR definition of creationism. Using YOUR definition, it's 45%.
We can look at creation to better order our lives.
We can identify in ourselves which of our tendencies are like a beast and choose to become and act higher than.
That pretty much sums up what I feel Satan is all about.
Its the instinctual and animalistic side of the human mind that gets us into trouble.
"Maybe not the only path, but it is certainly a path God expects us to take."
Im pretty sure its the only way but...if their is a god then the "science" of it all is the word of god so to speak.
It's his/it/hers signature.
Top to bottom from the micro to the macro.
If all of this is the result of gods hand then all that we see was put in place BY god.
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