Have at it.
Heck maybe thousands of years ago a Colonial Fleet came to the end of a long cosmic journey headed by a Battlestar and colonized this planet?
LOL Kendall will be the only one that knows what I am talking about there.
Then again maybe what created us is nothing more than another species that seeded life on this planet as they traveled the cosmos.
I can't remember that details but I think it was the Aztecs or Incas who knew about a star system that can not be seen without a telescope. Yet they knew its exact place in the nighttime sky.
Not to mention their amazing knowledge of other astronomical things.
Truthfully there may be a god but I just don't see how we could even come close to know what it truthfully is. We may never. I'm ok with that.
And if there is a god just think for a bit on the level of intelligence and power it would take to make all of this.
When I consider that and I look at all the "rules" laid down supposedly by god I just can't get past that the majority of it is absolutely useless to such a thing or being.
Some of it is so petty and obviously born of fear and the lack of understanding of the universe we inhabit.
This is how I look at it.
Out of the billions of stars there is a very very high probability that there is life out there somewhere. Some of that life could very well be sentient like us. And like us I am sure they have stories of where they came from and who or what created them.
If that is a fact who would be right? Us or them?
Im betting neither. I think that in our case at least we are still a very ignorant species. We know a lot...but not all of it.
And the path to knowing more is science. It can explain what we see around us.
Well Harry why does this scientific consensus not matter to you.
Of the scientists and engineers in the United States, only about 5% are creationists, according to a 1991 Gallup poll (Robinson 1995, Witham 1997). However, this number includes those working in fields not related to life origins (such as computer scientists, mechanical engineers, etc.). Taking into account only those working in the relevant fields of earth and life sciences, there are about 480,000 scientists, but only about 700 believe in "creation-science" or consider it a valid theory (Robinson 1995). This means that less than 0.15 percent of relevant scientists believe in creationism. And that is just in the United States, which has more creationists than any other industrialized country. In other countries, the number of relevant scientists who accept creationism drops to less than one tenth of 1 percent. THE CONSENSUS OF SCIENTIFIC OPINION GROWS.
It’s not a stretch to believe God would redo the earth. Rev. 21:1 speaks of a “new heaven and a new earth.”
To sum up, here’s how we may reason: God created the heavens and the earth. A long period of time passed, during which a geological and fossil record was left. Then Satan turned it into something useless. Then God, in 6 days, made the earth productive again.
I find no logical flaw with this timeline. However, I’m not bound to it, and my mind is open to alternative explanations. Like I said before, I don’t consider it important at present.
On to Gen. 1:2
Genesis 1:2, in the KJV, says "And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.”
First, it should be noted that “was” can just as easily be translated “became.”
Second, note that “the waters” existed before this event, suggesting that God didn’t begin this recreation with empty space.
Third, the Hebrew words “tohu wa bohu,” here translated as “without form and void,” have different translations.
In Deut. 32:10, for example, it’s “waste.”
In Is. 24:10, it’s “confusion.”
It’s also rendered as vanity and wilderness.
Let’s take a look at what the Bible says.
Genesis 1:1 says “In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth.” Rev. 12:9 says the devil was cast to the earth. Some believe this event occurred eons before Genesis 1:2, and that the devil ruined the earth.
Support for this view may be found in Is:14:17, which says Satan “made the world a wilderness.” Since we have no record of Satan doing so after Adam’s creation, it must have happened before Adam but after the creation mentioned in Gen. 1:1. Also, 2Peter 3 states “by the word of God the heavens were of old, and the earth standing out of the water and in the water: Whereby the world that then was, being overflowed with water, perished.” So there was a “world…of old” that “perished” or died. Maybe it didn’t cease to exist; maybe it became lifeless.
So maybe Satan despoiled God’s perfect earth, and God, in Gen. 1:2 recreated it.
There is more than one view of the earth’s creation. Some believe God created everything in 6 literal days. Some others believe the earth is billions of years old. Can we reconcile the two views? Maybe.
I take no firm position on this because it’s not the meat of God’s law, which is “to love the Lord with all your might and your neighbor as yourself.” I do believe it’s wrong to cause division or belittle someone with different beliefs about this.
There, now this topic shouldn't plague other threads.
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