There are many people I respect on here, so it seems very odd to me when they go so off base with critiques on their own writings.
Just as the Jew could once incite the mob of Jerusalem against Christ, so today he must succeed in inciting folk who have been duped into madness to attack those who, God's truth! seek to deal with this people in utter honesty and sincerity. -Adolf Hitler, in Munich, 28 July 1922
Tired, if you don't think a person saying they are a peticular faith isn't enough...then you are welcome to that position. As you have said, we have hit a wall on this topic.
Your stance is reasonable, Tiredofit.
But I can say the same thing about just about EVERY politician.
I am not saying he is NOT a follower of Christ of Satan or a three toed sloth, I just don't see much evidence in the way he conducts himself but it is NOT for me to judge anyone.
Kendall, we have hit the wall on this. I think you get my point but wont admit it but perhaps I am wrong. I have been so before.
So other than his words, and the fact that he went to a Black Theology church that he has fully rejected, and that he lies repeatedly, his pandering to Christian is enough for you to call him a FOLLOWER OF CHRIST.
“I don't think Obama is a person of any faith whatsoever, as most politicians.”
There’s truth in that statement. I would qualify it in a couple of ways.
1. I don’t think politicians differ much from the general population.
2. I wouldn’t say they have no faith; I would say they have not enough faith. Those who have faith in Jesus will not become angry when they Bible is quoted. They will adjust their attitudes and behavior to conform to that word because they believe God knows more than they do.
"To be a follower of Jesus Christ would seem to inhibit someone from lying don't you agree"
Who says that he isn't inhibited from lying? Perhaps if he wasn't a Christian he would lie so much more.
And no, he did not talk about his Muslim faith. He said the words "my muslim faith" which was a slip of the tongue when one would read the entire trascript. Now if he talked about his Muslim faith, I am sure certain issues like the five pillars, Mecca and Mohammed might have came up but they didn't.
Or could it be that like all politicians, he will say whatever he has to to get the outcome he desires
To be a follower of Jesus Christ would seem to inhibit someone from lying don't you agree>
I agree that there is no evidence that his lies came from any book
Well to be fair, he did talk about his muslim faith. So I guess if words are all that matter, its a fair thing to say
I don't know where any of his impulses to lie originate from. But there is no evidence that any of his lying came from a belief in the Koran.
"You should not have made such a declarative statement in your LTE"
I have no problem with making a declaritive statement about a person's faith when they have made their own declaritive statement about it.
Did the bible tell him to lie about keeping our health care plans and doctors>
That I am a hypocrite. I have statements of Obama declaring his christian faith. He chose to go to christian chruches.
The guy from Belpre tried to go from Obama attending a school with Muslims and make a insane leap from that to Obama lying and saying he got the idea from the Koran.
What am I making up?
You should not have made such a declarative statement in your LTE, that's all I am saying
"you are being hypocritical by criticizing him for making a statement that he had no proof of when you have no proof either."
You are free to make up whatever you want to. But when a person says they are Christian, then a rational person should accept that.
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