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326 days ago.
by Kendall78
Tiredofit
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what is the imigration bill really about

The dems are seeking to legalize 11 to 20 million new voters to secure their power for the foreseeable future and turn red states blue

 
 

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Kendall78

And yet the US became the sole World Power with the effects of the New Deal in place.

Posted 327 days ago.

Socialism IS evil. New Deal was a bad deal.

Posted 327 days ago.

Kendall78

Nothing at all wrong with speaking out on things you believe are bad.

My main complaint is labeling something "evil" that isn't. As I stated before..socialism is not evil anymore than it is good. It's all in how it is used.

Posted 327 days ago.

Tiredofit

Your argument is weak and flawed. We have restrictions on freedom of speech, so you cannnot object to further restrictions. We have restrictions on property rights so don't say a word if the govt takes yours. SSI is what it is, I participate by force of law, that does not mean I cannot identify future encroachments on my freedoms.

Posted 327 days ago.

Kendall78

You just keep thinking that Ithink and you will surely be blissful in your ignorance.

Though I am pretty sure you will be the good little drone you are and pay your taxes to Obama and his Democrats because deep down you know they can run your retirement better than you can.

Posted 328 days ago.

I am not sure, but I thought the self employed are required to pay into SS.

Anyway, Kendall, you cannot tell us how to avoid participating in SS. That's because there is no legal way.

Posted 328 days ago.

Kendall78

You are an expert at guessing. Now if only you could master reading comprehension. I will admit that you neglect important bits of info you do not like with the ease of a Sebelius.

Do you agree that the US has had socialism within it for decades?

Has it been a good thing for the US?

Posted 328 days ago.

Tiredofit

"I imagine your METHODS.."

Imagination is a wonderful thing. Every fool has imagination but few have wisdom.

I don't know the methods..merely there are ways..

I guess you have NEITHER.

Posted 328 days ago.

Kendall78

Long story short...the US has socialism within it for many many decades and will stay that way. Obamacare, whether you like it or not, will be with us a long long time. Let us hope that those in Congress can modify it and make the stupid thing work properly.

Nothing is accomplished by calling socialism evil because it is not. Nor is it good. It's simply a tool used by people to make the world hopefully better. Socialism has been a part of humanity before the time of Jesus.

Posted 328 days ago.

Kendall78

"I imagine your METHODS.."

Imagination is a wonderful thing. Every fool has imagination but few have wisdom.

Some methods are working for yourself with the example being a farmer. One can still pay taxes and reap those benefits but you won't get social security. I saw this play out in person before and it wasn't a pleasant moment.

Posted 328 days ago.

Kendall78

@Tiredofit- I have no idea how much you will draw. However, barring any sudden death or whatnot and considering inflation, what you will be drawing out when you are old should be more than you put in.

"I DO have a plan and have been investing for years,"

Good for you and with your socialized income on top of that, you should do quite well.

"but your little socialist plans"

I have no socialized plans.

Posted 328 days ago.

Tiredofit

So to be serious about my principles, I need to follow methods that you cannot describe? Wow thanks. I imagine your METHODS involve working under the table and not paying tax at all. NICE, more freeloader BS.

Posted 328 days ago.

Tiredofit

First of all Kendall, you have no idea how much I could draw from SS unless you think I will out live my parents> Are you now a doctor and a psychic? Secondly, I DO have a plan and have been investing for years, but your little socialist plans will bankrupt this country and we will devalue the dollar to the point that my personal responsibility will come to nothing because of freeloaders crushing the system. ahhhhh redistribution

Posted 328 days ago.

Kendall78

I don't know the methods..merely there are ways. I've witnessed the end results of those that do not pay into SS. Needless to say, they wished they had paid into it.

Posted 328 days ago.

Tell us the method you know that frees anyone working from paying into SS.

Posted 328 days ago.

Kendall78

According to PEW, in 2010...Hispanic couples have 2.4 children while non-Hispanic whites have 1.8 children. African-Americans have 2.1.

So add it all up. If two of the largest minorities (Hispanics and African-Americans) are increasing in their populations but European "whites" are not....what would any Republican think will happen to their party? It will lose members unless it starts appealling to those other minority groups.

Posted 328 days ago.

Kendall78

Back on topic, it's not the Dems that are securing their political base...it's the Republicans failing to secure their base.

Hard lesson #1: The classic "white" European American population is dropping and there is no reason to think it will increase with any sizeable increase in the next half century.

Hard Lesson #2: Hispanic American population is increasing and will continue to increase. This doesn't even have to do with illegals. Hispanics tend to have more children than other European descent people.

You add the African-Americans and left leaning "white" people and the Dems already have a solid political base that is destined to grow...not shrink.

Posted 328 days ago.

Kendall78

"We were forced to participate in SS and you want us to give up our own money plus its investment value?"

If one is serious about it, there are ways to not pay social security. Personally I don't want you to give up anything...just admit that socialistic ideas like SSI benefits you and others. What is so wrong with that?

Posted 328 days ago.

Kendall78

"I had NO CHOICE but to participate in SS, just like all liberal socialists ideas, they have to be MANDATORY."

There are ways around it if one is serious about their principles.

Posted 328 days ago.

Kendall78

"I have paid into SS for many years."

And when the time comes, you will draw more out of it than you had put in.

"Why is that good little socialist,obama, not doing diddly squat to help it?"

Because he is the executive branch and not the legislative branch. Legislative controls the money.

Posted 328 days ago.
 
 
 
 

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