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harryanderson
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Thankfully, the anti-science propaganda campaign surrounding man-made climate change seems to have lost some of its effect.

Are you seeing storm clouds on the horizon? Two recent studies suggest that the latest anti-science campaign is following its forerunners--the propaganda campaigns attempting to refute science that tobacco causes cancer, that CFC's caused the hole in the ozone layer, and so on—into oblivion. Global warming denial seems to have climbed to a peak in 2010, and global warming acceptance is now climbing. This bodes well for rational public policy.

 
 

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Good interpretation,harryanderson.

Posted 2 hours ago.

harryanderson

Stillhere, I didn't say he had a "conservative political outlook." That was the Weekly Standard.

Posted 2 hours ago.

Ohwiseone

That's right , sure cant miss you, now can we ? The lover of inconvenient facts !!(sarcasm)LOLOL

Posted 3 hours ago.

Stillhere

Useful idiots on full display.

Posted 3 hours ago.

Ohwiseone

There is a preponderance of evidence that states just the opposite of your opinion , so why should I believe some right-wing whacko over research that is credible ?

Posted 3 hours ago.

Ohwiseone

I'm sorry thinkie but that's not really an answer !So you think people will make millions selling books or giving speeches ? There are speeches given everyday by a multitude of people , even the idiot dubya , so why does this one issue bother you and your overseers so much ?

Posted 3 hours ago.

Ohwiseone

You righties still haven't answered this question !Who is going to make money and how are they earning it ,by warning folks that we need to take care of our planet and the Arctic has lost about 70% of its total volume of sea ice over the past three decades. ?

Posted 3 hours ago.

Stillhere

I KNOW you are a slave to science right Harry?

Posted 4 hours ago.

Stillhere

Ok Harry, he is worthy when he agrees with you lol ok he's the one with the agenda sure,

Posted 4 hours ago.

You should answer your own ideotic question. No warning is going on. It is fraud and lies.

Who makes money with the lies? Easy, easy, easy. The climate changers who are making movies and TV shows,writing books, selling stuff (even t shirts).

The radical warmers who get enormous fees for speaking at colleges and money making tours. Lawyers like Bobby Kennedy Jr.The wacky college professors and pseudo scientists who get huge grants for fake studies and programs. The green businesses that rake in billions of our dollars before they go belly up..

And we can't forget the politcians who scare people to get elected and rich.

Posted 4 hours ago.

harryanderson

Second problem: Lindzen’s confident predictions that global warming will cause no harm. The Weekly Standard reports:

“Lindzen also disputes the accuracy of the computer models that climate scientists rely on to project future temperatures. He contends that they oversimplify the vast complexity of the Earth’s climate and, moreover, that it’s impossible to untangle man’s effect on the climate from natural variability.”

The climate IS complex, but here’s Lindzen’s problem: If it’s “impossible to untangle man’s effect on the climate from natural variability,” how can Lindzen predict that global warming will result in no harm?

Lindzen contradicts himself.

If predictions are impossible, why are Lindzen’s own predictions any better than the predictions of the majority of other climate scientists? Again, Lindzen behaves like those he criticizes.

Posted 4 hours ago.

harryanderson

First problem: The Weekly Standard shows Lindzen’s political bias.

“One frustrating feature of the climate debate is that people’s outlook on global warming usually correlates with their political views. So if a person wants low taxes and restrictions on abortion, he probably isn’t worried about climate change. And if a person supports gay marriage and raising the minimum wage, he most likely thinks the threat from global warming warrants costly public-policy remedies. And of course, even though Lindzen is an accomplished climate scientist, he has his own political outlook—a conservative one. “

So, while Lindzen accuses others of having a political agenda, he has one himself. He’s behaving like those he criticizes.

Posted 4 hours ago.

harryanderson

Dr. Lindzen is worthy of serious consideration. For example,

“Lindzen doesn’t deny that the climate has changed or that the planet has warmed. ‘We all agree that temperature has increased since 1800,’ he tells me. There’s a caveat, though: It’s increased by ‘a very small amount. We’re talking about tenths of a degree [Celsius]. We all agree that CO2 is a greenhouse gas. All other things kept equal, [there has been] some warming. As a result, there’s hardly anyone serious who says that man has no role. And in many ways, those have never been the questions. The questions have always been, as they ought to be in science, how much?’”

htt p://ww w.weeklystandard.co m/articles/what-catastrophe_773268.html?page=2

But I have two problems with Lindzen: I think he lets his political agenda color his thinking and I wonder about his predictions. In both of these areas, Lindzen behaves a lot like those whom he criticizes.

Posted 5 hours ago.

Ohwiseone

Rush ites !Now even the censures hate Rush !

Posted 6 hours ago.

Ohwiseone

And still you deflect or deny the truth ! The point that your right-wing training lacks is the one thing you all refuse to answer !Who is going to make money and how are they earning it ,by warning folks that we need to take care of our planet ? And I am by far not a "liberal" ! But I detest the way you Ru****es use it like its a swear word !And the "hate , war on women is well documented as coming from your side ! And again , the republican strategy of denial,deflection and lie, lie, lie wont help you shake that off !

Posted 6 hours ago.

Ohwiseone can't post without his obsession with faux, whatever that is. Liberals are lost without the words faux, hate, Koch bros., racism and war on women. Lol Most people have never heard of the Koch bros. Soros is much more famous.

Posted 7 hours ago.

Ohwiseone

Again , all it is , is proof that you are indeed a very small mind in a very big world !

Posted 8 hours ago.

Ohwiseone

And you still haven't answered this question !Who is going to make money and how are they earning it ,by warning folks that we need to take care of our planet ? Well..... we are still waiting !!

Posted 8 hours ago.

Ohwiseone

Here's some rebuttal for you ! You still haven't addressed the fact that the Arctic has lost about 70% of its total volume of sea ice over the past three decades. Was it magic or maybe aliens stole the Ice ? One things for sure , it's not there anymore !

Posted 8 hours ago.

Stillhere

I think Dr Lindzen was right.

Posted 8 hours ago.
 
 
 
 

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