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22 hours ago.
by Kendall78
harryanderson
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Thankfully, the anti-science propaganda campaign surrounding man-made climate change seems to have lost some of its effect.

Are you seeing storm clouds on the horizon? Two recent studies suggest that the latest anti-science campaign is following its forerunners--the propaganda campaigns attempting to refute science that tobacco causes cancer, that CFC's caused the hole in the ozone layer, and so on—into oblivion. Global warming denial seems to have climbed to a peak in 2010, and global warming acceptance is now climbing. This bodes well for rational public policy.

 
 

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Kendall78

"with the greenhouse gas behavior of CO2."

Do you agree that CO2 has greenhouse gas behvior?

Yes or No.

Posted 77 days ago.

Kendall78

"Now you arr showing your ignorance.."

Actually, I was quoting from the very article you were using but didn't cite...thus showing your ignorance on the very article itself. Read it again before you comment.

Posted 77 days ago.

Tiredofit

This is what passes as science to lemmings

Posted 77 days ago.

Tiredofit

It heats the glass and then the air inside , fooled by the internet.

Posted 77 days ago.

Kendall78

Also, if you read the entire article you might have seen this, "As a final reminder, infrared radiation is a form of light, not heat."

Read the whole article before you decide to copy/paste and citations don't hurt either because it was very simple to tell that you didn't write that stuff.

Posted 77 days ago.

Tiredofit

Now you arr showing your ignorance, infared will heat the OUTSIDE of a glass jar, it does not replicate the sun in our environment, lol

Posted 77 days ago.

Kendall78

I do know what you mean though by thermal radiation and glass though. Oddly enough, Myth Busters tackled this a little when they were doing an episode about beating securrity alarms. The way one could beat the basic thermal scan was with a large sheet of glass between the person and the scanner. Not very practical but it worked.

Posted 77 days ago.

Kendall78

If you were intellectually honest you would have read the whole thing which includes, "...near infrared, does pass through glass."

Posted 77 days ago.

Tiredofit

I understand that the thermal band does not pass through glass, do you deny that basic fact?

Posted 77 days ago.

Kendall78

"ht tps://climaterx.wordpress.c om/tag/infrared-light-and-glass"

You didn't understand a single thing in that copy/paste you put up there did you?

Posted 77 days ago.

Tiredofit

Checkmate

Posted 77 days ago.

Tiredofit

The middle band of wavelengths, generally referred to as thermal infrared, is infrared light produced by matter around room temperature.  It is this band of infrared that cause atoms in molecules to jiggle, and jiggling atoms generate heat.  This radiation is strongly absorbed by matter, and will not pass through glass.  It is also the radiation absorbed by CO2.  So any demonstration that attempts to show that a glass jar filled with CO2 will heat up faster and to a higher temperature than a jar filled with air by shining infrared on both jars has been staged. Oh, the gases in both jars will heat up. If you heat up any container, glass or otherwise, any gas inside the container also will heat up.

Posted 77 days ago.

Tiredofit

Kendall, does infared pass through glass?

Posted 77 days ago.

Kendall78

Do you have a point in making that list of heat?

Posted 77 days ago.

Tiredofit

There are many types, you should know this

Posted 77 days ago.

Tiredofit

Radiant heat, latent heat convective heat are all different.

Posted 77 days ago.

Kendall78

"have you tried it?"

I don't require that experiment to understand the science behind the effects of CO2 on climate change. If I didn't, perhaps I would need to do the experiment.

Posted 77 days ago.

Tiredofit

No need to try it when you know imfared will NOT penetrate glass. It's a faulty premise

Posted 77 days ago.

Kendall78

Read this: w w w.skepticalscience.c om/co2-temperature-correlation.h t m

What problems do you have with their findings and ideas.

Posted 77 days ago.

Tiredofit

Kendall have you tried it?

Posted 77 days ago.
 
 
 
 

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