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4 days ago.
by mythravere
harryanderson
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Thankfully, the anti-science propaganda campaign surrounding man-made climate change seems to have lost some of its effect.

Are you seeing storm clouds on the horizon? Two recent studies suggest that the latest anti-science campaign is following its forerunners--the propaganda campaigns attempting to refute science that tobacco causes cancer, that CFC's caused the hole in the ozone layer, and so on—into oblivion. Global warming denial seems to have climbed to a peak in 2010, and global warming acceptance is now climbing. This bodes well for rational public policy.

 
 

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harryanderson

"This radiation is strongly absorbed by matter, and will not pass through glass. It is also the radiation absorbed by CO2."

Once again. Why does that matter?

Posted 83 days ago.

harryanderson

Same old Tiredofit. When asked a direct question, you try to deflect attention from it by tossing insults instead of trying to answer the question.

Posted 83 days ago.

Tiredofit

This radiation is strongly absorbed by matter, and will not pass through glass.  It is also the radiation absorbed by CO2. Again for the hopelessly obtuse.

Posted 83 days ago.

Tiredofit

Harry an experiment should replicate fact, something you are short of it seems

Posted 83 days ago.

Tiredofit

You look like the fraud you are harry

Posted 83 days ago.

harryanderson

Again, why is it important how you heat the gasses?

Posted 83 days ago.

harryanderson

How is it flawed? Why does it matter how you heat the gasses in the jars?

Posted 83 days ago.

Tiredofit

This radiation is strongly absorbed by matter, and will not pass through glass.  It is also the radiation absorbed by CO2. DUH

Posted 83 days ago.

Tiredofit

l how you heat the jar is of paramount importance if you are.trying to model the planet..geez

Posted 83 days ago.

harryanderson

And, as I understand it, here is how CO2 causes the earth to become warmer: Sunshine hits the earth. A certain amount of the heat from that sunshine reflects back into space, and another amount is absorbed by the earth, the oceans, and the atmosphere. When the concentration of CO2 in the atmosphere increases, more heat is absorbed and less is radiated.

Posted 83 days ago.

Tiredofit

YOU sited this as evidence that I rejected, now you are crawfishing. Inhave show CLEARLY how the experiment is flawed.

Posted 83 days ago.

harryanderson

Sure, Tiredofit. Maybe the radiation won't pass through glass. But tell me why it matters HOW you heat the gasses. Seems to me the point is that CO2 in a gaseous atmosphere prevents heat from escaping. Do you deny that? Or will you refuse to answer that simple question?

Posted 83 days ago.

harryanderson

Now I'm not an expert. I have neither the time nor the inclination to acquire the advanced education to completely understand this.

Since I'm not an expert, it seems reasonable to believe 97% of the most credible experts in the field, and they say that CO2 is preventing heat from radiating into space.

Tiredofit chooses not to believe the most-published and most-reviewed experts. That is his right. And his position is understandable, since he has written that it's a political discussion, not a scientific discussion.

Posted 83 days ago.

Tiredofit

From "deep"in the internet whatever that means This radiation is strongly absorbed by matter, and will not pass through glass.  It is also the radiation absorbed by CO2.

Posted 83 days ago.

Tiredofit

Harry it as you that sited the experiment as some proof I rejected, now tell me is it a valid model or not?

Posted 83 days ago.

harryanderson

First, Tiredofit had to go deep in the internet to an obscure Wordpress blog. On the other hand, many peer-reviewed scientific papers document the greenhouse gas effect. So 97% of the most-published scientists agree.

Second, the quote Tiredofit plagiarized doesn't deny that the jar with CO2 will heat up faster and hotter. It takes issue with method used to heat it up, but doesn't deny that CO2 makes it hotter. And if you do the experiment, your thermometer will tell you that COs does make it hotter. I guess the post is saying the gasses in the experiment heat up from convection through the glass.

No, Tiredofit's post doesn't say that CO2 is a heat-trapping gas. But it doesn't say it isn't a heat-trapping gas, either.

Posted 83 days ago.

Tiredofit

This radiation is strongly absorbed by matter, and will not pass through glass.  It is also the radiation absorbed by CO2.

Posted 83 days ago.

Kendall78

I'll be back later. Have a nice evening.

Posted 83 days ago.

Tiredofit

No more time for you boy, gotta get ready for the hunt, enjoy the weather.

Posted 83 days ago.

Kendall78

I never once said it was valid now did I?

You asked about infared radiation and quoted from James R. Barrante, Ph.D. From the same article by him, I answered you truthfully and you won't admit you are wrong.

In response, I asked you a straight forward question, "Do you agree that CO2 has greenhouse gas behavior?" But you have not answered it yet.

I answered your question, now show some decency and answer mine.

Posted 83 days ago.
 
 
 
 

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