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6 days ago.
by mythravere
harryanderson
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Thankfully, the anti-science propaganda campaign surrounding man-made climate change seems to have lost some of its effect.

Are you seeing storm clouds on the horizon? Two recent studies suggest that the latest anti-science campaign is following its forerunners--the propaganda campaigns attempting to refute science that tobacco causes cancer, that CFC's caused the hole in the ozone layer, and so on—into oblivion. Global warming denial seems to have climbed to a peak in 2010, and global warming acceptance is now climbing. This bodes well for rational public policy.

 
 

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harryanderson

But she didn't link funding to results like you did. Do you have any examples where funding was linked to results? That's the claim you made.

You wrote, "results=funding."

Posted 87 days ago.

Tiredofit

Good catch Kendall and you make my point, of course she is on your side that gives her MORE credibility right, not like she is a DENIER. SHE ADMITS TO EXAGGERATION FOR FUNDING.* being a scientist and a director of a program in a FEDERAL agency, I would say she knows both politics and science better than anyone here.

Posted 87 days ago.

mythravere

But I know you won't. Just drop your insult and move along then.

Posted 87 days ago.

mythravere

Tiredofit you are such a fool. We can see all around us that the world is warming which begs that we make changes to how we consume energy because it is the use of that energy that is getting us into this issue.

But the energy problem is a double edged sword. Not only is the massive amounts of carbon we are emitting causing climate issue but that energy source is finite.

Renewables will take time to get them to the point where they can take over the load. Not to mention we need to consume less energy through better efficiency.

That reason right there is reason enough to start weaning ourselves off of carbon based energy.

But renewables...not as big as a profit making potential oh sorry not much funding potential with renewables.

I'd like to see your cowardly behind tackle the reasoning behind that.

Posted 87 days ago.

mythravere

Ok now that we have established Tiredofit that scientists exaggerate(I am just going along with you one that one) it is now time for you to show us where and how much of the funding that scientists get is correlated to "exaggeration".

Typing to dang fast.

Posted 87 days ago.

mythravere

Check mate? LOL! Hardly!

This is the place where I show your foolishness.

Ok not that we have established Tiredofit that scientists exaggerate(I am just going along with you one that one) it is not time for you to show us where and how much of the funding that scientists get is correlated to "exaggeration".

Posted 87 days ago.

Tiredofit

The problem is, only sensational exaggeration makes the kind of story that will get politicians’ — and readers’ — attention. So, yes, climate scientists might exaggerate, but in today’s world, this is the only way to assure any political action and thus more federal financing to reduce the scientific uncertainty. ONE MORE TIME MAYBE JT WILL SINK IN. NOAA CLIMATE PROGRAM DIRECTOR. A FEDERAL AGENCY.

Posted 87 days ago.

Tiredofit

So there is your proof that climate science knows that exaggeration leads to FUNDING HARRY. CHECK MATE OLE BOY.

Posted 87 days ago.

Tiredofit

But your arrogance has got you again.

Posted 87 days ago.

Tiredofit

Of course she's a warmer, never said she was not, but she freely admits to exaggerating for political action and funding. Nice try harry.

Posted 87 days ago.

Tiredofit

Exaggeration = more funding plain as day. That is the point and you look like a fool on this one harry.

Posted 87 days ago.

harryanderson

Good catch, Kendall.

Even the climate scientist hyped by Tiredofit for political reasons believes, when she puts on her scientist cap, that atmospheric carbon contributes to global warming,

Another true believer, eh?

Tiredofit is hoisted by his own petard again.

That’s the bottom line, not politics.

Posted 88 days ago.

harryanderson

Once again, Tiredofit, you show yourself, and distort what I wrote.

By saying “talking outside of her field,” I clearly meant unlearned in politics. You however, deceptively choose to ignore the qualification and focus on the catchall word unlearned.

Posted 88 days ago.

Kendall78

"My research experience and interests include the science and societal impact of air pollution. In particular, I focus on black carbon (BC) pollution, which is a by-product of incomplete combustion, both natural and anthropogenic. BC contributes to climate warming and is linked to a range of health problems, including premature mortality." (Monika Kopacz)

So Tired, you agree with her that black carbon contributes to global warming?

Posted 88 days ago.

harryanderson

We're talking past each other. I refer to the science, and you refer to the politics.

I refuse to be swayed by political hype.

I repeat: an overwhelming majority of the climate scientists most published in peer reviewed journals agree with the tenets of the IPCC.

That's the bottom line, not your politics.

Posted 88 days ago.

Tiredofit

Monika Kopacz, Program Manager Email: monika.kopacz@noaa.gov Phone: 301 734-1208 FEEL FREE to call this unlearned person HARRY and tell her that she don't know jack. LOL this is public information on the NOAA website

Posted 88 days ago.

Tiredofit

lol didn't work out like ya planned did it.

Posted 88 days ago.

Tiredofit

OUCH

Posted 88 days ago.

Tiredofit

Oh HARRY?????

Posted 88 days ago.

Tiredofit

Atmospheric Chemistry, Carbon Cycle and Climate (AC4) Program Program managers: : Monika Kopacz (monika.kopacz@noaa.gov), Kenneth Mooney (kenneth.mooney@noaa.gov) NOAA/OAR Climate Program Offic

Posted 88 days ago.
 
 
 
 

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