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96 days ago.
by slinky
harryanderson
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Thankfully, the anti-science propaganda campaign surrounding man-made climate change seems to have lost some of its effect.

Are you seeing storm clouds on the horizon? Two recent studies suggest that the latest anti-science campaign is following its forerunners--the propaganda campaigns attempting to refute science that tobacco causes cancer, that CFC's caused the hole in the ozone layer, and so on—into oblivion. Global warming denial seems to have climbed to a peak in 2010, and global warming acceptance is now climbing. This bodes well for rational public policy.

 
 

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moderation

2014 may be the hottest year on record. It depends on the fourth quarter, but it is lining up to be the hottest.August was the hottest ever, not to mention several other months.

Posted 478 days ago.

Yes, ohwiaeone aliens stole the Arctic ice and took it to Antarctica.

The climate has been changing since the earth was created. Why would it stop now? You changers need to get a life. You don't control the earth or its weather.

Posted 479 days ago.

moderation

It's not co2 that warms,Carnac the Magnificent,it faciltates the warming.Try ta keep up.And, think about what you said.That puts a purty good tear in your fabric of logic.No charge for that, it's the same as an emotional eval. (;

Posted 479 days ago.

harryanderson

"You can't state facts about future warming. There are none. Only guesses ,opinions..."

I agree. Any prediction about the future, whether it be global warming or whether the law of gravity will end tonight, is guessing.

Not so the past and present. We can state facts about the past and present. Here's two: 1) global warming continues to heat up the upper ocean and 2) atmospheric temperatures have trended steadily upwards since we began burning large amounts of fossil fuels.

Posted 479 days ago.

mythravere

"Only guesses ,opinions, and fortune making lies."

Sorry but thats how you see it.

The scientists and what they say are informed on the issue and I trust what they say over folks like yourself who are extremely partisan in nature.

Its a proven fact that if you guys don't like something you will do anything and everything to justify your dislike of it.

Up to and including denying all facts about the issue. The truth doesn't matter only that you don't like it because socialist commies benghazi or whatever.

Posted 479 days ago.

You can't state facts about future warming. There are none. Only guesses ,opinions, and fortune making lies. Rich and richer.......climate change pushers.

Posted 479 days ago.

mythravere

Now back to the real meat of this conversation.

Stillhere/Tiredofit will never admit he's wrong about any of this.

And he sure as heck will never admit when those of us who believe man has a hand in climate change are correct in the facts we offer him.

Does that sound like someone who wants a good debate?

Its just the old and tired Republican mantra of NO.

Posted 480 days ago.

mythravere

"And EVEN YOUR sources admit, no warming in 18 years and counting."

Um no they do not. Sorry but repeating that just isn't going to make it reality.

Especially in light of the recent findings that the oceans in the upper levels are getting warmer.

Posted 480 days ago.

moderation

Augusts ocean temps tie last Junes hottest temp record. That's so!!

Posted 480 days ago.

mythravere

And because I know you will.

NO ONE IS SUPPORTING THE GOVERNMENT TAKEOVER OF OUR ENERGY INDUSTRY!

Posted 480 days ago.

mythravere

The things that we know will happen with a warming planet are. Sea level rise. Unpredictable seasonal weather patterns. More intense droughts.

The whole thing with there being more warmth is that it translates to their being more energy in the atmosphere.

Posted 480 days ago.

mythravere

There is a good bit of uncertainty in regards to what exactly is going to happen climate wise to this planet.

BUT! There are some things that we know will happen if the planet continues to warm. Which it has been doing and you Stillhere/Tiredofit agreed with until you changed your story. You might have disagreed with the cause but you did agree that it was going on until that angle played out for your crusade and you took up the no warming in 18 years bit.

Posted 480 days ago.

mythravere

" Unforeseen phenomenon can't exactly be programed into a model." Typo correction.

Posted 480 days ago.

mythravere

No one is having a fit. LOL! I don't know about the others but I find it really amusing that you are getting tripped up by simple aspect of science.

As new information comes in scientific findings change.

You are also tripped up on the aspects of climate modeling. The models can not really predict what is going to happen in the short term.

Our weather and climate is a very dynamic thing.

We just don't have the ability to simulate the whole shebang in the most absolute of detail.

Thats why its really no surprise when a prediction is off. Unforeseen phenomenon can exactly be programed into a model. Like the wind shear changing in the Atlantic in such a way that it prevents the formation of Hurricanes after it was said that they would become more numerous and more powerful.

Posted 480 days ago.

harryanderson

Stillhere informed us that "the upper part of the world’s oceans continue to absorb heat from global warming."

There is no pause. It continues.

Posted 480 days ago.

mythravere

"Lol as EVERY prediction fails to materialize, NOW they claim we cannot believe their own sources, lolool"

No whats really funny is that you complain about funding being a big influence on why the scientists make the findings they do therefore every things they say must be suspect.

That is until you find a scientist that supports what you believe who you then cite as proof of your positions. All the while never giving them the same scrutiny that you give to scientists who support an issue that you disagree with.

Posted 480 days ago.

harryanderson

Global warming continues, according to stillhere, who posted that "the upper part of the world’s oceans continue to absorb heat from global warming."

Posted 480 days ago.

mythravere

"Curry actually entered the public eye in 2005, with a paper in Science magazine warning that hurricanes were likely to become more intense as a result of climate change."

Remember chiding us because the predictions of more severe hurricanes never came true?

Guess where that came from?

Her! LOL! And low and behold there you are appealing to her authority.

Posted 480 days ago.

Who needs instruments to look at fossils, moderation? I certainly agree that we don't have any way to know exact prehistoric temperatures. So called heat records now don't mean anything.

h ttp://w ww.cliffsnotes.c om/sciences/geology/glaciers-and-glaciation/north-american-glaciation

I'm sorry,I don't have time to teach you. You can read it on your own.

Posted 481 days ago.

mythravere

There has been warming in the past 18 years...indeed that is...so.

Posted 481 days ago.
 
 
 
 

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