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3 days ago.
by Stillhere
harryanderson
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Thankfully, the anti-science propaganda campaign surrounding man-made climate change seems to have lost some of its effect.

Are you seeing storm clouds on the horizon? Two recent studies suggest that the latest anti-science campaign is following its forerunners--the propaganda campaigns attempting to refute science that tobacco causes cancer, that CFC's caused the hole in the ozone layer, and so on—into oblivion. Global warming denial seems to have climbed to a peak in 2010, and global warming acceptance is now climbing. This bodes well for rational public policy.

 
 

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Stillhere

Dr. Richard Lindzen of MIT speaks at EIKE in Germany on Models vs. Measurements in April 2014, the video was just recently made available on YouTube.

His conclusion: Real science in any case it is not what many climate modelers present as science. It’s more a kind of religion.

Yes DR LINDZEN like a religion

Posted 34 days ago.

Stillhere

I will close with this from MIT Climatologist Richard Lindzen

“I think that the latest IPCC report has truly sunk to level of hilarious incoherence,” Dr. Richard Lindzen told Climate Depot, a global warming skeptic news site. “They are proclaiming increased confidence in their models as the discrepancies between their models and observations increase.”

The IPCC (Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change) claimed it was 95 percent sure that global warming was mainly driven by human burning of fossil fuels that produce greenhouse gases.

The I.P.C.C. also glossed over the fact that the Earth has not warmed in the past 15 years, arguing that the heat was absorbed by the ocean.

“Their excuse for the absence of warming over the past 17 years is that the heat is hiding in the deep ocean,” Lindzen added. “However, this is simply an admission that the models fail to simulate the exchanges of heat between the surface layers and the deeper oceans.”

Posted 34 days ago.

Stillhere

I suppose they think they are just more enlightened than we knuckle dragging doubters. Its not like I make my living from fossil fuels but somehow I am in the pocket of big oil or coal lol. They just cannot understand how people can look around and realize HEY its NOT warmer as a matter of fact its been a lot cooler as of late. Oh I guess we are just knuckle draggers

Posted 34 days ago.

Stillhere

the theories are FLAWED, its obvious but you cannot have a debate with those that are convinced they are right despite the evidence.

Posted 34 days ago.

Stillhere

There is AMPLE evidence that the theories of the warmers is not correct but yet they cling to them like a religious doctrine and ultimately that is JUST what THEY are.

Posted 34 days ago.

Stillhere

I am always amazed at how they can be so convinced of something that is unproven even by those that advocate it. Its very personal with these types, and I have yet to put my finger on why. The level of bitterness they bring is quite clear but a rational person would have to wonder why.

Posted 34 days ago.

Stillhere

And they ARE socialists, some like Myth are just not bright enough to realize the ultimate end to their goals.

Posted 34 days ago.

Stillhere

The failed models and predictions are catching up to them, the artic was supposed to be ice free by now or have you forgotten> They really are desperate and getting nastier by the day as the plan falls apart. The American people don't care about their phony crisis despite the daily media blitz. That must really stink for the socialist warmers

Posted 34 days ago.

Stillhere

Notice the snark , oh Harry, the veneer is coming off.

Posted 34 days ago.

Stillhere

And HARRY as you are a slave to science why do you DENY the origins of man when it suits you>??? later

Posted 34 days ago.

Stillhere

One thing that must be understood here, there are ALWAYS people figuring how to make a fortune from anything like this. Exxon and Shell may have pretended to change their position on AGW but that is ONLY because they have done the calculus and found a way to profit from it.

Posted 34 days ago.

harryanderson

Now we see the political agenda. Stillhere invokes Dr. Lindzen for his scientific expertise. Then, he discovers that some of Dr. Lindzen’s scientific statements disagree with Stillhere’s political agenda. So he starts to ignore his former guru, Lindzen, and instead focus on a reporter’s perceived politics.

And this happens each time a counter climate changer tries to get into the scientific area. Like Joe Bast of Heartland said, “We've won the public opinion debate, and we've won the political debate as well, but the scientific debate is a source of enormous frustration."

Later, kiddies.

Posted 34 days ago.

Stillhere

20 years later the ozone hole is STILL THERE, but if we hadn't banned CFCS it would have been worse right>???

Posted 34 days ago.

Stillhere

Of course ITHINK, but the goal is to get some govt action and then claim that it would have been worse without it, much like the OZONE hole that is STILL there by the way,

Posted 34 days ago.

Desperation time for them, Stillhere. They will never prove man made global warming. A useless waste of time.

Posted 34 days ago.

Stillhere

You are free to believe who you chose to believe but don't tell ME what stands and what does not, you are way above your pay grade here.

Posted 34 days ago.

Stillhere

I do enjoy it when you say something STANDS like you are the judge and jury, lol ok you can say you buy it, but that is a long way from TRUTH

Posted 34 days ago.

harryanderson

And again, I didn't post Gillis' opinion. I posted Lindzen's opinion. If you can show where Lindzen has disavowed what Gillis reported, let's hear it.

Posted 34 days ago.

Stillhere

Gillis is a partisan and an activist, PERIOD, you cannot put lipstick on that pig Harry, nice try

Posted 34 days ago.

Stillhere

National Public Radio's Fresh Air hosted the New York Times' most apocalyptic environmental reporter Justin Gillis Thursday to discuss his "Temperature Rising" series in the Times. Gillis again compared global warming skeptics to creationists.

Posted 34 days ago.
 
 
 
 

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