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158 days ago.
by slinky
harryanderson
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Thankfully, the anti-science propaganda campaign surrounding man-made climate change seems to have lost some of its effect.

Are you seeing storm clouds on the horizon? Two recent studies suggest that the latest anti-science campaign is following its forerunners--the propaganda campaigns attempting to refute science that tobacco causes cancer, that CFC's caused the hole in the ozone layer, and so on—into oblivion. Global warming denial seems to have climbed to a peak in 2010, and global warming acceptance is now climbing. This bodes well for rational public policy.

 
 

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mythravere

My problem with the "green" movement is that a lot of what it proposes as solutions to climate change are just wishful overly optimistic thinking.

Thinking that im my opinion doesn't jive with reality.

Take nuclear power for example. Other than fossil fuels its the only current energy source we have that can provide large amounts of energy in a small footprint.

Wind,solar and hydropower on the other hand have to have massive footprints to come even close to providing the power output that fossil fuels and nuclear can provide.

Posted 668 days ago.

mythravere

As far as the what the ultimate goal of those who push this issue are though?

It could be out of concern. But it could also be out of having a new profitable market in sight.

I always joked with my parents that if the powers that be could they'd charge us for the air we breath.

On the flip side. Those who have interests laying in fossil fuels see any shift away from the energy resources they provide as a threat. And they respond by throwing doubt into the debate. Which is ok as long as its well founded.

Like asking whether or not renewable energy can actually work for us. What will the costs be etc.

Posted 668 days ago.

mythravere

Here's my problem with this and really any issue.

The special interests that muddy up the truth on the issues that we face.

That pertains to everyone on each either of the issue. Then you have the emotional component and that just muddies things up even more.

Posted 668 days ago.

moderation

Can we agree that the level of co2 in our atmosphere has a history that is recorded in ice accumulations at the poles? Can we agree that high levels of co2 have accompanied higher earth temperatures? Can we agree that co2 levels are the highest they have been in 1 million years?

Posted 668 days ago.

mythravere

But I don't see renewables as being able to completely take the weight of our energy needs. At least in the foreseeable future.

I also support nuclear energy. Just don't build it at sea level in a tsunami prone area.

Posted 669 days ago.

mythravere

I can easily agree with all of those.

I will also offer that this issue has gotten to the point where it is almost too toxic to deal with in any manner.

The only thing I think that needs to be answered is can anything be done about it. Stopping it that is.

As far as its validity. My feelings are that with a growing world population we are going to need how bunch of energy in the future. So taking care of that need will help with the issue of climate change. Sustainable energy is the key to both of those.

To me its killing two birds with one stone. To me the validity of climate change isn't all that important. Our energy needs though are very important and an all of the above approach is warranted.

Posted 669 days ago.

mythravere

The grass in the field was wet so the son pretty much "water skied" behind the horse as it took off down the field.

Now from the time he threw the lasso to when the horse had him in tow was like 5 seconds at most.

I'd say he was pulled a good 60 to 70 feet until he was able to get his hand free.

That could have ended a lot worse than it did.

Man was that a sight.

Posted 670 days ago.

mythravere

"Speaking of teeth and hooves, I once saw a horse pick a large woman out of the saddle of another horse by her arse and shake her like a dog with a sock. THE POWER was impressive."

Yep. One of my parents neighbors has some horses. Well one got loose and I went with their son to go wrangle it up. Well we found it taking in someones elses greener pasture.

He fashions a lasso out of an old course nylon rope I had. On his end he basically made a small loop for him to hold onto. He made a big mistake in how he made that loop. Well he's out in this field with the horse and he sure enough lasso's it but the horse is having none of it so it takes off like a bat out of hades. At that point Im standing maybe 50 ft away across a creek bordering the field on a road so I get a full view what happens next.

That loop he made pulled tight around his hand and he got taken for a bit of a "ride".

Posted 670 days ago.

I've been enjoying all the fox stories. We caught a young one this summer in a live trap set for groundhogs. The older ones know better.

As for the coyote problem, we have a donkey here for that. Can't prove it works, and can't prove it doesn't. Some people are really believers.

Posted 670 days ago.

absolem

you are welcome moderation and good luck with your fowl protection challenge.

Posted 670 days ago.

moderation

And, thanks for the tip on fowl security!

Posted 670 days ago.

moderation

Yes, absolem, it was impressive and encouraging.

Posted 670 days ago.

absolem

Ohwiseone....thank you for the page count. speaking of being booted, may i inquire as to which page one of your many monikers was booted?

Posted 670 days ago.

absolem

moderation.. found on the backyard chickens website. a forum member suggests the Corgi and/or the Miniature Pinscher as being suitable for the protection of your chickens.

Posted 670 days ago.

absolem

sometimes life offers a tidbit of decent humanity. after over 200 pages of relative nonsense, stillhere and mythravere's exchanges bloom into a wonderful expression of humanity, compassion and decency...which is worthy of a pause in life to acknowledge.

Posted 670 days ago.

mythravere

Speaking of coyotes. When I was still living with my parents out in the country I came home real late one night. As soon as I shut the door on my car I started hearing this huge amount of "crying" from on top the hill above my parents house.

I bet there was at least 10 coyotes up there going after something.

Well that sent the hairs right up on the back of my neck. And by sound of them I'd say they were no more than a few hundred yards away.

So quickly got my rear end inside. Even though I was a short distance from the house.

Talk about freaky.

Posted 670 days ago.

mythravere

"You are not worthless, no one is. If my jabs caused that level of feeling, well, that aint right."

You didn't cause me to develop those feelings. I've had them since I was in school.

I mean when you are in those learning disability classes(math was the only one I was in)and it gets to the point that in high school they pretty much say well not much we can do here....and hands you a calculator. You can't help but that dang I must really be bad for them to just hand me a calculator.

My problem stems from numbers pretty much acting like sand in someones hand. If you want to hold it you got to have a tight grip but as soon as you loosen your grip the sand starts pouring out. Except in my case the sand is numbers and the hand is my mind. The bigger the number the harder it is for me to hold onto it.

All the stuff that I wanted to do after I got out of school involved a high amount of math. Can't really rely on a calculator on a job site.

Thats it in a nutshell.

Posted 670 days ago.

moderation

myth- even here,big brother, and more,lives.Remember the ref's last instructions before the before the bell....

Posted 670 days ago.

moderation

Soon, eradication will be legal.

Posted 670 days ago.

moderation

Yes, a swift, low profile canine may be an asset, but rac***** and coyotes have to be dealt with, as well.

Posted 670 days ago.
 
 
 
 

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