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25 minutes ago.
by Stillhere
harryanderson
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Thankfully, the anti-science propaganda campaign surrounding man-made climate change seems to have lost some of its effect.

Are you seeing storm clouds on the horizon? Two recent studies suggest that the latest anti-science campaign is following its forerunners--the propaganda campaigns attempting to refute science that tobacco causes cancer, that CFC's caused the hole in the ozone layer, and so on—into oblivion. Global warming denial seems to have climbed to a peak in 2010, and global warming acceptance is now climbing. This bodes well for rational public policy.

 
 

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mythravere

I've dealt with something before that is about the same as trying to converse with Tiredofit.

My uncle got a divorce and he brought a bunch of his personal belongings up to my parents to store them until he found another place.

Well in my uncles stuff was this 50 to 60 foot length of rope knotted up horribly bad into pretty much a ball. Well my uncle said I could have it. So I sat down and set to work unknotting it. I think I spent half a day tugging and pulling and studying that rope until I got it all untangled.

That rope was twisted under,over and back on itself so much but I didn't give up. Just pure curiosity keep me going to see if I could undo that mess.

And much the same with tiredofit.

Its entertaining to see how the "rope" is so tangled up and whether or not you can make sense of it.

Like I said before though. A psychologist would have a field day with his gray matter. LOL!

Posted 358 days ago.

Kendall78

"try to separate the natural warming that ended 17.yrs ago"

Seems that you are implying that you have evidence that the warming of 17 years ago was natural. Do you or are you talking out your backside again?

Posted 358 days ago.

Kendall78

"Sorry it a up to you to show why it's not."

You silly piece of intellectual jetsam. So you are asking Myth to prove something is not the cause of global warming? How do you expect him to prove the negative?

Posted 358 days ago.

Kendall78

@Myth- Tired doesn't realize when people are laughing at him.

He ignores facts and wants to make it all about politics when there is no evidence that politics play any measurable influence on the topic.

I mention Ball and his funding to see if Tired would try and defend the man's position with facts. Alas, Tired did not and because of this....one could easily say that Tired has no basis for his position in anykind of reality.

By his own admission, he won't trust people who get money from other people. Therefor any people who say man made global warming is false...he can't use. It must be h*ll in Tired's mind.

Posted 358 days ago.

Kendall78

"Thank you for admitting that the source of ones funding might taint the output."

Nice to see that sarcasm is wasted on you.

But since you seem to hold money/politics so tightly to everything....are you then saying that since Ball gets money...his opinion doesn't matter either?

Come on Tired...is Ball trustworthy?

Would you like to take back your support of his position?

Posted 358 days ago.

Kendall78

"Suddenly the source of funding influences the outcome"

Lol...I knew you wouldn't defend Ball's position but go in the other direction. You are so predictable Tired.

Posted 358 days ago.

Kendall78

But there seems to be a majority consensus on the evidence.

Posted 358 days ago.

mythravere

"You Moe and curly have wasted page after page attacking me."

By all means bow out if you can't take the heat.

But as far as attacking goes. Sport you got no room to talk when it comes to that stuff.

Especially the vitriol you spew toward Harry.

Posted 358 days ago.

mythravere

And like always you ignore the natural phenomenon that shows the planet is warming.

There is no arguing the planet is warming. If it wasn't we'd be headed into another ice age and glaciers wouldn't be disappearing.

But you are saying there is no warming...but awhile back you said there is warming but man isn't responsible.

Which is it.

Posted 358 days ago.

mythravere

"From Leafy to Lifeless: Tropical Rainforest Once Covered Antarctica

Time magazine

Hmmmm wonder how that happened"

I dont know? A thing called continental drift.

Posted 358 days ago.

mythravere

Tiredofit can you show where billions of tons of co2 being put in the atmosphere since the beginning of the industrial revolution has no effect on changing the chemical composition of the air and is a contributing factor in the warming of this planet?

Apparently you have some evidence to support your case. Why not share it?

Posted 358 days ago.

mythravere

The funds coming from Heartland on the other hand serve one purpose and one purpose only.

To take over the debate on this issue and cast piles of doubt.

Posted 358 days ago.

mythravere

Another thing about funding is that can you show that scientific funding or rather the fact of securing more funding is skewing the results?

I see no reason to believe thats the case.

You on the other blindly assume that is the case.

Posted 358 days ago.

mythravere

And this whole thing about funding? Its just an easy excuse for you to discount the reality of mans role in climate change.

You conservative types like to grab that low hanging fruit.

Posted 358 days ago.

mythravere

But by all means Tiredofit. Please do explain why this is all natural.

I don't know about the others though. I am dead certain you can't.

Because if you could you would have already to shut this "debate" down.

Instead you are using other tactics that are failing miserably.

Its funny though that you aren't in this to prove us wrong. If you were. You'd detail why you are right. Nope. I guess you like beating your head against a wall.

Posted 358 days ago.

mythravere

There's one problem with using what the NOAA lady said as a means of debunking the whole issue that is climate change.

There is actually observable effects of climate change for the whole world to see.

Sorry but its true.

From increased deglaciation. To actual sea level rise inundating islands here in there in the world. To coral bleaching. To actual weather phenomenon taking place whose happening can be explained by a shift in what would normally happen.

Posted 358 days ago.

mythravere

Sensational exaggeration your say?

Kinda like you saying that the government WANTS to take over the energy industry.

Kinda like you seeing a socialist thread in eeeeverything.

Posted 358 days ago.

Kendall78

Tim Ball is just being paid off by energy companies that are associated with Friends of Science and the Natural Resources Stewardship Project.

He's just a political stooge Tired. Why do you believe these commies and people paid off by interest groups?

Posted 359 days ago.

Kendall78

I see absoluetly nothing in Ms Kopacz that shows man made global warming is false.

Was that your point Tired? To show that man made global warming is false with her statement? Because you failed yet again.

Posted 359 days ago.

Kendall78

It's nice Tired that you found a retired scientist that agrees with you. Pity he hasn't done any research of anykind in years and years.

But that still doesn't answer the question why you trust an opinion writer like James Taylor, two Electrical Engineers and a Socialist.

Posted 359 days ago.
 
 
 
 

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