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by Kendall78
harryanderson
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Thankfully, the anti-science propaganda campaign surrounding man-made climate change seems to have lost some of its effect.

Are you seeing storm clouds on the horizon? Two recent studies suggest that the latest anti-science campaign is following its forerunners--the propaganda campaigns attempting to refute science that tobacco causes cancer, that CFC's caused the hole in the ozone layer, and so on—into oblivion. Global warming denial seems to have climbed to a peak in 2010, and global warming acceptance is now climbing. This bodes well for rational public policy.

 
 

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Gee,myth, you agree totally with a republican. Lol

A total miracle.

Posted 220 days ago.

My beliefs don't cost you a penney,myth. But we tax payers have been paying for the green energy disasters like Solyndra and all the others. Jobs and tax revenue are lost through the corrupt EPA and obama regulations. The power grid is not safe either. Better stock up on batteries.

Stay out of our business and leave us alone, you nannies.

Now this joke of an administration is openly saying it will be good for people to stay home and not have jobs. Socialism is here. It is a much more dangerous worry than maybe, could be, might happen GW. If we all get stned we might not notice.

Posted 220 days ago.

mythravere

Harry was totally right in his comment about Tiredofit.

Posted 220 days ago.

mythravere

The problem is that we need to focus on what we can and should do. We need to be certain that the solutions we choose are the right ones.

Its really hard to do that when the discussion is muddied up by disruptive elements.

Tiredofit is a perfect example of a disruptive element to which I am referring.

Instead of honestly taking each issue in contention and talking about it openly with nothing more than the facts he picks and chooses the points he wants argue over.

Like the issue of funding. He always returns to that point because there is doubt to be squeezed out of that particular detail.

He uses it as an excuse to deny the whole body of work that climate scientists lay on the table. All the while refusing to answer other questions.

Posted 220 days ago.

mythravere

The earth is warming no arguing that point at all.

The problems we will see in our lifetimes aren't totally known. But we know that as the earth gets warmer big changes will take place.

We can try to stop it or we can position ourselves to adapt to it. But know for a fact that the countries not prepared for anything could find themselves in very desperate circumstances.

Desperate circumstances could very well lead to war.

War is a dangerous thing to court. Who knows where our civilization could find itself if another world war happened.

Thats just one of the many problems climate change could hit us with.

Posted 220 days ago.

mythravere

On the issue of Christianity let me say this.

I came across a picture of Kirk Cameron and in the picture this was said.

He demands that the government protect his right to practice his lifestyle so that he may influence others with his beliefs.

He demands that the government deny others the right to practice their own lifestyle for fear that they may influence others.

The pretty well sums up the issue I have with certain monotheistic religions.

Leave the rest of us alone and don't force your radical opinions on us!

Take your own advice Ithink.

Posted 220 days ago.

mythravere

No one wants to force you to believe man has a hand in global warming.

You are confusing being taken to task on what you say for being forced into believing something.

I could care less what you believe..but if you come on here and make comments on the issue then you open yourself and what you say for scrutiny.

The same for any topic.

Posted 220 days ago.

A religion is a belief that influences the believer's life to a great extent. Fanatical global warmers fit that description. They believe and want to force others to believe. Like radical islam, and myth's false view of Christianity.

Leave the rest of us alone and don't force us to pay for your radical opinions, and we don't give a hoot what crazy views you have about controlling the climate.

Calling that opinion a religion , is as true as " if you like your healthcare plan, you can keep your healthcare plan". Note, both falsehoods are told as truths by the same " scientific experts".

Posted 220 days ago.

harryanderson

Myth, you wrote, “One tiny little bit of hearsay is the deciding factor for tiredofit!”

Tiredofit’s actions certainly support that statement, Myth. He keeps quoting about reducing the scientific uncertainty, and I keep asking him if he’s interested in “reduc(ing) the scientific uncertainty.”

He refuses to answer. It seems he’s afraid to find out for sure because scientific certainty might attack his counter climate change religion. Certainty would prevent hearsay, innuendo, and doubt.

As long as people like Tiredofit whose product is doubt can cite “one tiny little bit of hearsay,” they can cling to their counter climate change faith.

Think about it, Myth, why else would Tiredofit refuse to say whether or not he is interested in reducing the scientific uncertainty? As long as 97% of the world’s top experts agree with the IPCC, he has hope for his religion. When that percentage reaches 100% or certainty, all his hope is gone.

Posted 221 days ago.

Kendall78

Anywho...I hope everyone has a good weekend and enjoy the Olympics :)

Go USA!

Posted 221 days ago.

Kendall78

What else could I do get since you simply will not discuss the topic like a rational adult?

You ignore requests for information to support your position.

You ignore evidence when it is provided to you.

You have gotten "personal" more times than most when faced with the harsh realities your wish to ignore.

Honestly, I would love to have a rational conversation on science and even politics but I feel that at the moment I am Diogenes with a lamp.

Posted 221 days ago.

Tiredofit

Well as long as you don't get personal. LOL

Posted 221 days ago.

Kendall78

"Just don't worry if I don't believe it."

I never worry about what fools say since the truth will always be the truth.

"Why try to convince me of something you have no proof of."

You are an untalented liar. Tired, you do not get to decide what is proof and what isn't. That is way above your paygrade. Proof has been offered and you either are too stubborn to accept it or too ignorant to understand it.

Posted 221 days ago.

Kendall78

"DO you have any PROOF that they are correct, again I cannot prove a negative as you so correctly stated. All your predictions and models have proven FALSE."

I have NEVER asked you to prove a negative. You say they lie and all I am asking you to do is to prove it.

Besides myself, there have been many people on here that have provide evidence that man has effected the earth's climate. You just won't accept it.

I have no models and have made no predictions. What you want is since the predictions have not panned out, that man made climate change is false which simply is not the case.

Think about it...those predictions were made based on available data. Regardless of the cause, the data was still the same and that is what the predictions were based on.

Posted 221 days ago.

mythravere

Tiredofit just admit that you do not want to believe man has a hand in changing the climate ergo that is the whole reason you object to the findings of the scientists.

I dont think you honestly care what the facts say. You see it as a gateway to socialism and that bunches your panties and well there's your position.

Posted 221 days ago.

mythravere

One tiny little bit of hearsay is the deciding factor for tiredofit!

Posted 221 days ago.

mythravere

" All your predictions and models have proven FALSE."

How do you know they are false?

Care to share the information?

If you don't then that pretty much means you are a smoke blowing troll.

Posted 221 days ago.

Tiredofit

I get it, you have bought into the religion, far be it from me to talk a person from their faith. Just don't worry if I don't believe it. Why try to convince me of something you have no proof of.

Posted 221 days ago.

Tiredofit

Goes to show the acceptance of lying if the greater good is served. DO you have any PROOF that they are correct, again I cannot prove a negative as you so correctly stated. All your predictions and models have proven FALSE.

Posted 221 days ago.

Kendall78

Going back to the quote in question, "So, yes, climate scientists might exaggerate"

Do you know what the word "might" means Tired? Here is a hint, it doesn't mean it's a fact.

Again and again and again, do you have any real evidence that the vast majority of climate science that states that mankind is involved with climate change is lies?

Yes or no

Posted 221 days ago.
 
 
 
 

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