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101 days ago.
by slinky
harryanderson
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Thankfully, the anti-science propaganda campaign surrounding man-made climate change seems to have lost some of its effect.

Are you seeing storm clouds on the horizon? Two recent studies suggest that the latest anti-science campaign is following its forerunners--the propaganda campaigns attempting to refute science that tobacco causes cancer, that CFC's caused the hole in the ozone layer, and so on—into oblivion. Global warming denial seems to have climbed to a peak in 2010, and global warming acceptance is now climbing. This bodes well for rational public policy.

 
 

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mythravere

Funding is everything for you isn't it. Just disregard the changes that have actually shown themselves and can be documented.

Like deglaciation. Like coral bleaching. Like abnormal seasonal deviations in weather patterns. Like permafrost thawing in areas where it didn't thaw before.

Oh and a good one. The Inuit having to coin new words to describe snow conditions. Since they are seeing the snow behave in ways they have never seen before.

Aaaah thats just meaningless.

Posted 910 days ago.

mythravere

Christian Science Monitor!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAhahahahahahahahaha!

Posted 910 days ago.

mythravere

Where do the deniers get their funding from? Hmmmm?

Posted 910 days ago.

mythravere

I forgot to mention documentaries on climate changes. Like Chasing Ice. But that will be shot down by you. Because....soccccciallistssssssss!!!!!!

Posted 910 days ago.

mythravere

A palin moment. No. What did I do wrong. LOL!

Posted 910 days ago.

mythravere

My favorite ones are National Geographic. Discover Magazine. LiveScience. I also follow stories in the news back to their sources and read that. Oh and Popular Science.

One of the big deciding factors for me though is this. Even without climate change would it not be better to shift ourselves away from finite resources onto more renewable ones. There are only so much carbon based resources left. Lets use it more efficiently and find alternatives that are open participants in the carbon cycle of this world.

Posted 910 days ago.

mythravere

So you tout someone who is funded by the Heartland Institute.

Awesome.

Posted 910 days ago.

mythravere

I am open to debate. I go where the facts go. I can acknowledge when I am wrong.

You on the other hand are totally closed up on the issue.

You have your position and thats the end of it.

Posted 910 days ago.

mythravere

Its something called reading. Its something called trusting the sources I look at. Its this thing called discernment.

Like I have said before I used to rail against climate change and mans hand in it. I used the same exact arguments you used. But then I decided to take a totally unbiased look at it. And you know what there is a strong case for it.

Posted 910 days ago.

mythravere

So at what point did only one party tell everyone how to live the lives. I was under the assumption that both parties do that has almost a hobby.

And no you are right I can't tell you what to chime in on. In fact I never thought I could. Its just that why bother if your mind is already made up? To you there isn't any debate. Heck you even stated that you aren't out to change anyones mind.

So....why bother?

Posted 910 days ago.

mythravere

Politics aren't informing me of anything. The science is. The accounts worldwide of ecological and environmental changes taking place are informing me.

Posted 910 days ago.

mythravere

Do us all a favor don't bother chiming in on this issue anymore. You aren't flexible in your thinking which correlates with dishonesty in my opinion.

Clarification

Posted 910 days ago.

mythravere

But who am I kidding right. LOL! There's an agenda...whooooooooo!

You're nothing more than a contrarian.

Do us all a favor don't both chiming in on this issue anymore. You aren't flexible in your thinking which correlates with honesty in my opinion.

With an opinion as biased as yours facts are meaningless. And when talking about an issue such as climate change and mans hand in it facts are everything.

Posted 910 days ago.

mythravere

You are letting politics inform your decisions. Knowing full well politicians lie...yet your whole point hinges on the politics angle.

And I've never given any credit to Al Gore.

I just don't care about Al Gore.

You see I don't let mouthpieces do the reporting for me nor the decision making.

Posted 910 days ago.

mythravere

I think it safe to say tiredofit that you are biased. Sorry but pulling what some small groups of people posit as a solution to a problem as evidence socialists are trying to dominate the world....through climate change therefore its must be resisted...holding that up as your proof or whatever is really sad. LOL!

Posted 910 days ago.

mythravere

Ok as for that ball of "fire" 93 million miles away. Well technically its not fire. Its plasma. And technically its not really 92 million miles aways. After all we are in the its heliosphere.

Posted 910 days ago.

harryanderson

“All my posts are appropriate dear Harry despite your limited frame of reference.”

You have a point, Tiredofit. You might say my frame of reference is limited. Its limited insofar as I’m much more concerned about how climate change will harm humans in the near future than I’m concerned about the extinction of wooly mammoths in the distant past.

Of course, you asked my opinion on wooly mammoths in the context of climate change when you posted, “Harry what do you have to say about Wooly mammoths?”

You may be more concerned about wooly mammoths than humans. I’m not.

Posted 910 days ago.

harryanderson

Why won't you talk about the rising sea levels mentioned in Kunectdots' reference?

Posted 910 days ago.

harryanderson

“Harry what do you have to say about Wooly mammoths?”

I say they are gigantic unshaven straw men.

In a discussion, one invokes a straw man when one misrepresents an opponent’s position, usually to deflect attention away from his or her own inability to respond to the opponent’s actual position.

It’s like a baseball pitcher could project an image of a ball to appear alongside the real ball he has pitched. Hopefully, the batter would swing at the image instead of the real ball.

I’m not swinging at wooly mammoths or any of the other distracting images you have projected this morning.

Nobody here has invoked Al Gore as an authority.

Nobody here has quoted the World Socialist Website as an authority.

Nobody here has proclaimed friendship with the Defense of Marxism website.

Wooly mammoths, Al Gore, Socialism, Marxism. Ball four.

Why won’t you pitch one in the strike zone, Tiredofit? Why won’t you talk about the impacts of the rising sea levels mentioned in Kunectd

Posted 910 days ago.

mythravere

Its always about Al Gore. Goodness what stupidity and willful at that.

Just admit that the facts mean nothing to you. Your deciding factor revolves around it being an issue that people on the left hold as being true therefore you can't admit it has being true that man has a hand in climate change.

Just ignore the fact that billions of tons of co2 have been put back into the atmosphere.

Posted 910 days ago.
 
 
 
 

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