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by harryanderson
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Thankfully, the anti-science propaganda campaign surrounding man-made climate change seems to have lost some of its effect.

Are you seeing storm clouds on the horizon? Two recent studies suggest that the latest anti-science campaign is following its forerunners--the propaganda campaigns attempting to refute science that tobacco causes cancer, that CFC's caused the hole in the ozone layer, and so on—into oblivion. Global warming denial seems to have climbed to a peak in 2010, and global warming acceptance is now climbing. This bodes well for rational public policy.

 
 

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mythravere

What natural causes are causing global warming. Provide the evidence that supports your case.

If you are right you should be able to provide that easily.

I bet you won't.

Posted 287 days ago.

mythravere

We've laid it out more times than I can count.

If you are honest (which I know you're not) you would point out where its all wrong.

It doesn't matter what I say or anyone else says.

You deny it.

And you refuse to acknowledge anything we say.

Posted 287 days ago.

mythravere

Say why is that scientist you referenced more believable than the other scientists who say global warming is caused by man.

What is it about him that makes you believe what he says?

Could it be because he is in agreement with the position you hold?

Is that why you ignored the truth about the background of that guy?

Posted 287 days ago.

h ttp://w ww.foxnews.c om/scitech/2010/12/30/botched-environmental-forecasts/

" worried about global warming? Decades ago, what did prominent scientists think the environment would be like in 2010? FoxNews.c om has compiled eight of the most egregiously mistaken predictions."

This article is not about Fox News, it is about facts. False science worshiping Clowns still are followiing the silly clowns.

Posted 287 days ago.

mythravere

Actually tiredofit Kendall is asking you as I am to look at the science.

You keep either saying man isn't the cause(without providing proof that natural causes are the culprit) or you keep laying something said by someone else on the table as your proof. You are appealing to authority.

Posted 287 days ago.

mythravere

"Enjoy your global warming tonight Kendall, may your pipes freeze on your trailer."

Aaah see Tiredofit complains about getting insulted then he flings out this comment.

Making it sound like living in a trailer is something to be looked down upon.

Like admitting that you have lived or lived in a trailer is something to be ashamed of.

I'll have you know that if you haven't lived in a trailer in West Virginia then you are not a true West Virginian.

Since I have lived in a trailer for a large chunk of my life I guess I am more of a true West Virginian than tiredofit if he hasn't?

Two can play that petty little game.

Posted 287 days ago.

Kendall78

"US spends over $7 billion in 3 years helping other countries deal with climate change"

So?

Writing of Daniel Greenfield? Nothing but an appeal to authority. Not really an authority even.

Google? Not evidence.

Posted 287 days ago.

Kendall78

As for the "hide the decline" stuff, I would recommend for your consideration this site for what it is worth: w w w.skepticalscience.c om/Mikes-Nature-trick-hide-the-decline.h tm

Posted 287 days ago.

Kendall78

"Enjoy your global warming"

I won't be enjoying the cold weather tonight...that is for sure. But I am quite sure we all will not be enjoying the global warming of our planet.

Posted 287 days ago.

Kendall78

"because mann blamed dem evil oil companies."

I find this very funny considering you tried to imply money was a reason for those saying climate change is man made.

"the emails redefining peer review"

Cute, but the emails have nothing to do with the peer review I cited that you haven't read yet.

Posted 287 days ago.

Kendall78

"Believe as you like."

I do but unlike you it would seem my position is based more on fact than yours.

I am guessing you cannot answer the simple yes or no question I asked? Or is it you will not?

Posted 287 days ago.

Kendall78

"Why all the insults?"

There have been no insults. If you willfully ignore facts, you are therefor ignorant. If you commit fallacies in your arguments, it can be claimed you are participating in shoddy research.

Posted 287 days ago.

Kendall78

"Can you prove that the emails dont demonstrate fraud"

Can't prove a negative there chief. Nice try. Btw, you didn't answer my question. Was your answer a yes or no?

Posted 287 days ago.

Kendall78

"You guys really hate people that don't buy into this garbage. Myth compared me to nazis yesterday now you compare me to a halocaust denier."

Lie if it makes you feel better but I did not compare you to a holocaust denier. I comapred you method to theirs.

It is more than a little humorous that you don't show how I am wrong in this, you just show that you are offended. Oh well.

And I don't hate you at all. I just don't care for shoddy research and the way you cling to ignorance on the topic.

Posted 287 days ago.

Kendall78

"Yet you chose the holocaust randomly"

Nothing random about it. Holocaust denial is a very well known example of bad debating practice. The methods used there are very comparable to how climate change deniers use. You are just playing offended drama queen card because you are focused on the wrong thing.

What is peer review? You wouldn't called the published works of actual climate change scientsist that are looked over by other climate scientists as being reviewed by peers? I provide the link, take the time to read it if you are capable.

Posted 287 days ago.

Kendall78

I don't dismiss the cherry picked emails with little or no context. They simply do not counter the evidence available.

Again, when you can provide hundreds of climate scientists that say man isn't involved in claimate change...then you will be doing good.

Can you do this? YES or NO.

Posted 287 days ago.

Kendall78

"That's the second time I have been compared to Nazis who put people in ovens"

Careful drama queen, I never compared you to the Nazi. I simply compared your habits as a denier to those that deny the holocaust.

Like you, they tend to deny everything they do not like, provide little to no evidence and commit appeal to authority quite often.

Posted 287 days ago.

Kendall78

Back on what it means to have a concensus. In a recent poll done by Naomi Oreskes shows that 97% of Climate Scientists believe that the current trend of climate change is influenced by mankind.

They came up with this study from 928 published papers on climate change. The news story: w w w.theguardian.c om/environment/climate-consensus-97-per-cent/2013/may/16/climate-change-scienceofclimatechange

The study: h tt p://iopscience.iop.o rg/1748-9326/8/2/024024/article

Tired, when you can provide 928 peer reviewed papers done by climate scientists that say that climate change is not at all influenced by man, then you might have something.

Posted 287 days ago.

Kendall78

Climate scientist Michael Mann called the hacking of those emails were done by, " Agents doing the dirty bidding of the fossil fuel industry know they can't contest the fundamental science of human-caused climate change. So they have instead turned to smear, innuendo, criminal hacking of websites, and leaking out-of-context snippets of personal emails in their effort to try to confuse the public about the science and thereby forestall any action to combat this critical threat."

Posted 287 days ago.

Kendall78

And out of all that blabber...NO EVIDENCE.

Tired, you are committing numerous appeal to authority. Just saying some scientist says something isn't evidence.

You need to have a consensus between scientists that specialize in climate change.

It's kind of tragic the way you behave. It reminds me of the Nizkor website that deals with Holocaust deniers. It's a vastly different topic of course but the methods that those deniers use is very similiar to what man made climate deniers use.

Posted 287 days ago.
 
 
 
 

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