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3 hours ago.
by Stillhere
harryanderson
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Thankfully, the anti-science propaganda campaign surrounding man-made climate change seems to have lost some of its effect.

Are you seeing storm clouds on the horizon? Two recent studies suggest that the latest anti-science campaign is following its forerunners--the propaganda campaigns attempting to refute science that tobacco causes cancer, that CFC's caused the hole in the ozone layer, and so on—into oblivion. Global warming denial seems to have climbed to a peak in 2010, and global warming acceptance is now climbing. This bodes well for rational public policy.

 
 

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Kendall78

Also, if you read the entire article you might have seen this, "As a final reminder, infrared radiation is a form of light, not heat."

Read the whole article before you decide to copy/paste and citations don't hurt either because it was very simple to tell that you didn't write that stuff.

Posted 199 days ago.

Kendall78

I do know what you mean though by thermal radiation and glass though. Oddly enough, Myth Busters tackled this a little when they were doing an episode about beating securrity alarms. The way one could beat the basic thermal scan was with a large sheet of glass between the person and the scanner. Not very practical but it worked.

Posted 199 days ago.

Kendall78

If you were intellectually honest you would have read the whole thing which includes, "...near infrared, does pass through glass."

Posted 199 days ago.

Kendall78

"ht tps://climaterx.wordpress.c om/tag/infrared-light-and-glass"

You didn't understand a single thing in that copy/paste you put up there did you?

Posted 199 days ago.

Kendall78

Do you have a point in making that list of heat?

Posted 199 days ago.

Kendall78

"have you tried it?"

I don't require that experiment to understand the science behind the effects of CO2 on climate change. If I didn't, perhaps I would need to do the experiment.

Posted 199 days ago.

Kendall78

Read this: w w w.skepticalscience.c om/co2-temperature-correlation.h t m

What problems do you have with their findings and ideas.

Posted 199 days ago.

Kendall78

So instead of trying it, you dismiss it and want others to do it for you?

To what end? Even if someone did it for you, you wouldn't accept the results unless they go into your belief system.

Just admit that you are not open to ideas that do not revolve around your beliefs.

Posted 199 days ago.

harryanderson

Sounds interesting. I'll check that out. Thanks.

Posted 199 days ago.

Kendall78

Too true. A little off topic but have you ever ventured to The Nizkor Project? It covers the history of Holocaust denial, debates tactics and things of that nature. Pretty interesting.

Posted 199 days ago.

harryanderson

I do agree that it's impossible to have a rational discussion with someone who refuses to consider valid evidence.

Nevertheless, interacting with such people in public is useful for showing the the mental and emotional processes that lead to different points of view. Like the Bible says, "Out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaks."

Posted 199 days ago.

harryanderson

That is: Demonstrable evidence has been presented, and Tiredofit refuses to be swayed by it.

Posted 199 days ago.

harryanderson

I wouldn't say anybody has their head in the sand. I'm just saying scientists have presented demonstrable evidence, and it refuses to sway Tiredofit.

Posted 199 days ago.

Kendall78

Out of everything Tired posted, there was only one thing worth quoting out of all the blabber, ad hominems and attempts to look intelligent;

"I don't know"

Yes Tired, we know you do not know. You have no inkling of why it's happening and you are quite comfy cozy in your ignorance.

@Harry- kind of hard to have a rational discussion with a person whose head is in the sand isn't it?

Posted 199 days ago.

harryanderson

Tiredofit,

There's a world of scientific proof that CO2, added to an environment surrounded by a gas, traps heat from escaping.

You refuse to accept that proof. Mythravere even suggested a simple experiment you could perform at home. You discounted it.

Nothing will ever convince you. Nevertheless, you serve a useful purpose here, and I thank you for your comments.

Posted 199 days ago.

Kendall78

" you might have some credibility."

You mean like offering a scientific alternative to Global Warming other that CO2 emissions?

Well please Tired, offer up something to give yourself some credibility. It would be a nice change of pace for you.

Posted 199 days ago.

harryanderson

"Turn off you computers sell your car, stick solar panels on your home's and stop breathing. When you have done this, you might have some credibility."

To accept the science and have an impact, Tiredofit, one doesn't need to become a hermit off-grid Luddite up some remote holler.

Reasonable people should avoid extremist views.

Posted 199 days ago.

mythravere

And I believe this will happen even sooner if they happen to win the next presidency or gain control of the senate.

Correction.

Posted 200 days ago.

mythravere

In all honesty I am looking for the right to become more and more irrelevant.

Well let me elaborate. The extreme right. The hardliners. The ones the are contentious as all get out.

And I believe this will happen even sooner if they happen to win the next presidency or gain control of the house.

Because on those people start putting policies on the books people are going to see first hand how out of touch they are.

Just a matter of time until those folks meets their reckoning.

Posted 200 days ago.

mythravere

As we march along and nothing is done about the issue of climate change the Republicans are setting themselves up for a great fall to come.

One the effects of climate change starts really affecting people's lives guess who those people are going to blame?

The ones who do not believe it is real and want no action take on it.

Posted 200 days ago.
 
 
 
 

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