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26 minutes ago.
by Stillhere
harryanderson
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Thankfully, the anti-science propaganda campaign surrounding man-made climate change seems to have lost some of its effect.

Are you seeing storm clouds on the horizon? Two recent studies suggest that the latest anti-science campaign is following its forerunners--the propaganda campaigns attempting to refute science that tobacco causes cancer, that CFC's caused the hole in the ozone layer, and so on—into oblivion. Global warming denial seems to have climbed to a peak in 2010, and global warming acceptance is now climbing. This bodes well for rational public policy.

 
 

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Kendall78

"Gingers do tend to be emotional, like women."

Wow..mixing racism and misogyny all in one sentence.

Posted 172 days ago.

Kendall78

"Youre just wrong on the facts.."

In what way? You have yet to show how the facts are wrong.

Please try to show how they are wrong.

Posted 172 days ago.

Kendall78

"NOAA Confirms Model-Defying..."

How about you give us some NOAA citation for this statement of yours Tired. But since we know you won't..here is some stuff from NOAA's people:

"Since 1976, every year including 2012 has had an annual temperature above the long-term average. Including the 2012 temperature, the rate of warming is 0.06°C (0.11°F) per decade since 1880 and a more rapid 0.16°C (0.28°F) per decade since 1970, according to the 2012 annual report from NOAA's National Climatic Data Center."

Posted 172 days ago.

Kendall78

"It's personal to you if someone doesn't believe the same things."

No, it's just offensive to rational people when others spew random factless statements around and want to be taken seriously. Take the hint.

Posted 172 days ago.

Kendall78

Let's play Tired's game shall we..

"Since I am primarily a data guy, I’ll confine my comments here to discussing recent climate trends but note that the global climate has warmed...and it will likely continue to warm for another 200-300 years" (S. Fred Singer)

Posted 172 days ago.

Kendall78

"No warming in this century????"

Explain that please. Has the last 14 years been warmer on average than 1900-1914?

Yes or No

Posted 172 days ago.

Kendall78

Tired....do you even realize that all you posted is some credentials about a man and NOTHING that throws doubt into mna made global warming?

Posted 172 days ago.

Kendall78

"I would guess it is about 40% now"

Guessing? Yes..that is scientific Tired. HAHA.

Posted 172 days ago.

Kendall78

"So-called global-warming alarmists are in a frenzy after the latest climate data confirmed the Earth actually appears to be entering a potential cooling trend, sea-ice cover in Antarctica.."

Will you at least have the balls to cite your sources because everyone on here knows you are not clever enough of a writer to come up with this on your own.

Posted 172 days ago.

Kendall78

"Environment: The United Nations on Friday released its climate change report, which says that scientists are 95% sure that man is causing Earth to warm. Well, we're 100% sure this finding deserves a heaping dose of ridicule."

Tired, how much ridicule does the 5% that don't think global warming is manmade deserves? Surely they deserve even more yes? Maybe a huge heaping dose?

Posted 172 days ago.

Kendall78

"No warming in this century????"

Explain that please. Has the last 14 years been warmer on average than 1900-1914?

Yes or No Tired.

Posted 172 days ago.

mythravere

"The true scientist has no need for appeal to authority—he uses his expertise to give clear explanations for anyone seeking them."

Only problem with that is when the people "seeking" the explanation denies anything and everything the scientist is explaining to them.

Nothing can be explained to the person who doesn't want to understand and whose mind is already made up.

That'd be you tiredofit and others like you.

Posted 172 days ago.

mythravere

"In freshman logic, we are taught that this is the fallacy of “appeal to authority.” The true scientist has no need for appeal to authority—he uses his expertise to give clear explanations for anyone seeking them."

But aren't you appealing to the authority of Forbes Magazine? Eh? Tiredofit.

You appeal only to the authority that supports what you believe.

Posted 172 days ago.

mythravere

"3. They intimidate, rather than explain. Well they make lame attempts at it in some cases such as here."

LOL! Everything is intimidating to rightwingers.

Posted 172 days ago.

mythravere

"Here are three ways the Climate Scientologists abuse science.

1. They use manipulative language

If you are ever asked the incoherent question “Do you deny climate change?” you have found yourself a Climate Scientologist."

Climate change deniers don't use manipulative language at all. (deadpan)

Posted 172 days ago.

mythravere

"The natural CO2 flux to and from oceans and land plants amounts to approximately 210 gigatons of carbon annually. Man currently causes about 8 gigatons of carbon to be injected into the atmosphere, about 4% of the natural annual flux. There are estimates that about half of man’s emissions are taken up by nature. But is that true? Are there variations in the natural flux? Could those explain the CO2 increase?"

Doesn't matter what the percentage is if our emissions cause problems.

Not to mention the other way of arguing for less use of fossil fuels.

THERES ONLY SO MUCH LEFT!

So why not get started on developing renewable energy sources?

Posted 172 days ago.

Kendall78

Tired, are you simple?

"If you are ever asked the incoherent question “Do you deny climate change?”"

That is not a incoherent question. Do you even know the definition of "incoherent"?

"They intimidate, rather than explain."

Exactly how does this not apply to you and your vast array of insults?

"the fallacy of “appeal to authority.”"

That's all your arguments are on here Tired. You cite a scientist that you agree with and that's all you do. You don't explain anything.

Posted 172 days ago.

mythravere

All the while ignoring the fact that we a pumping thousands of tons a day of carbon into the atmosphere that wasn't there 50..100 years ago. While stating that there hasn't been and will not be any changes from altering the chemical balance of the atmosphere.

correction

Posted 172 days ago.

mythravere

Whats it like Tiredofit knowing full well that your position on this issue is a direct result of politics. Not facts.

You can deny it all you want but you position that the world isn't warming is not supported by facts.

Heck you don't even have a consistent position on the warming. I've seen you bounce back and forth from saying there is not warming to saying the warming isn't caused by man. That its all natural in origin.

All the while ignoring the fact that we a pumping thousands of tons a day of carbon into the atmosphere that wasn't there 50..100 years ago. While stating that there has been and will not be any changes from altering the chemical balance of the atmosphere.

LOL!

Posted 172 days ago.

mythravere

Except its not a religion. Claiming that it is a religion is just a means of smearing those who believe that it is an issue that needs to be dealt with. And its a tactic meant to stop any kind of real debate on the issue while also sowing doubt about said issue.

People like Tiredofit are just tools in achieving that goal.

Posted 172 days ago.
 
 
 
 

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