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7 hours ago.
by Ohwiseone
harryanderson
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Thankfully, the anti-science propaganda campaign surrounding man-made climate change seems to have lost some of its effect.

Are you seeing storm clouds on the horizon? Two recent studies suggest that the latest anti-science campaign is following its forerunners--the propaganda campaigns attempting to refute science that tobacco causes cancer, that CFC's caused the hole in the ozone layer, and so on—into oblivion. Global warming denial seems to have climbed to a peak in 2010, and global warming acceptance is now climbing. This bodes well for rational public policy.

 
 

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mythravere

Politics aren't informing me of anything. The science is. The accounts worldwide of ecological and environmental changes taking place are informing me.

Posted 376 days ago.

Tiredofit

you don't have the authority to tell me when or where I cannot chime in. I suppose you take yourself seriously enough to think you can but sorry bub.

Posted 376 days ago.

Tiredofit

if you think politics are not informing you, you are a bigger fool that I thought.

Posted 376 days ago.

mythravere

Do us all a favor don't bother chiming in on this issue anymore. You aren't flexible in your thinking which correlates with dishonesty in my opinion.

Clarification

Posted 376 days ago.

mythravere

But who am I kidding right. LOL! There's an agenda...whooooooooo!

You're nothing more than a contrarian.

Do us all a favor don't both chiming in on this issue anymore. You aren't flexible in your thinking which correlates with honesty in my opinion.

With an opinion as biased as yours facts are meaningless. And when talking about an issue such as climate change and mans hand in it facts are everything.

Posted 376 days ago.

mythravere

You are letting politics inform your decisions. Knowing full well politicians lie...yet your whole point hinges on the politics angle.

And I've never given any credit to Al Gore.

I just don't care about Al Gore.

You see I don't let mouthpieces do the reporting for me nor the decision making.

Posted 376 days ago.

mythravere

I think it safe to say tiredofit that you are biased. Sorry but pulling what some small groups of people posit as a solution to a problem as evidence socialists are trying to dominate the world....through climate change therefore its must be resisted...holding that up as your proof or whatever is really sad. LOL!

Posted 376 days ago.

mythravere

Ok as for that ball of "fire" 93 million miles away. Well technically its not fire. Its plasma. And technically its not really 92 million miles aways. After all we are in the its heliosphere.

Posted 376 days ago.

Tiredofit

You have no standing on scientific matters Harry, you believe the world was created in 6 days and that all of mankind came from two people. That's fine, its not for me to judge, but don't get all indignant about the value of scientific research, it only shows your hypocrisy,

Posted 376 days ago.

Tiredofit

I would imagine Harry that if you were born during the ice age, you would rail about the glaciers receding from Indiana.

Posted 376 days ago.

Tiredofit

Well Harry, how old do you believe the earth is? This is important to your frame of reference. You pretend to know how warm it is SUPPOSED to be and how HIGH the sea levels are supposed to be. Tell me Harry, with CLEAR evidence that the earth has been changing for MILLIONS of years, when exactly was the world perfect and all the seas at the correct level and the temp at its optimal?

Posted 376 days ago.

harryanderson

“All my posts are appropriate dear Harry despite your limited frame of reference.”

You have a point, Tiredofit. You might say my frame of reference is limited. Its limited insofar as I’m much more concerned about how climate change will harm humans in the near future than I’m concerned about the extinction of wooly mammoths in the distant past.

Of course, you asked my opinion on wooly mammoths in the context of climate change when you posted, “Harry what do you have to say about Wooly mammoths?”

You may be more concerned about wooly mammoths than humans. I’m not.

Posted 376 days ago.

Tiredofit

Additionally, myth says my resistance to this are because of who supports it, so the reference to socialists and Marxist websites is wholly appropriate. Finally, to deny al gore was the face of climate change propoganda is a lie on its face but suddenly he is irrelevant? All my posts are appropriate dear Harry despite your limited frame of reference.

Posted 376 days ago.

Tiredofit

We won't limit this discussion to your limitations.

Posted 376 days ago.

Tiredofit

Myth talked about animals adapting harry, so there goes your strawman dodge. Clearly mammoths lost the advantage of a thick coat after the ice age and adapted or died out. So nice try Harry.

Posted 376 days ago.

harryanderson

Why won't you talk about the rising sea levels mentioned in Kunectdots' reference?

Posted 376 days ago.

harryanderson

“Harry what do you have to say about Wooly mammoths?”

I say they are gigantic unshaven straw men.

In a discussion, one invokes a straw man when one misrepresents an opponent’s position, usually to deflect attention away from his or her own inability to respond to the opponent’s actual position.

It’s like a baseball pitcher could project an image of a ball to appear alongside the real ball he has pitched. Hopefully, the batter would swing at the image instead of the real ball.

I’m not swinging at wooly mammoths or any of the other distracting images you have projected this morning.

Nobody here has invoked Al Gore as an authority.

Nobody here has quoted the World Socialist Website as an authority.

Nobody here has proclaimed friendship with the Defense of Marxism website.

Wooly mammoths, Al Gore, Socialism, Marxism. Ball four.

Why won’t you pitch one in the strike zone, Tiredofit? Why won’t you talk about the impacts of the rising sea levels mentioned in Kunectd

Posted 376 days ago.

Tiredofit

Last quote from DEFENSE OF MARXISM website. See what your friends are saying myth

Posted 376 days ago.

Tiredofit

For environmental issues to be addressed, the development of society must be planned. However, we cannot plan what we do not control, and we cannot control what we do not own. For example, how could we even begin to build a sustainable supply of energy when the electricity industry, mines, and water companies are privately owned, operating solely to make profit? These businesses must be brought into public ownership, and operated democratically. But in and of itself, public ownership of utilities industries would not solve the problem – after all, in the post war period in Britain all of these industries were nationalised. In order to direct investment, private ownership must be eliminated in the banking, insurance and financial sectors. This would allow the proper level of investment in new technology, the development of agriculture, and the development of long term planning. Only then would society’s resources be able to be consciously planned, for the benefit of all.

Posted 376 days ago.

Tiredofit

The only solution is the marshaling of the world’s resources in a planned and rational manner. The full force of human technology and ingenuity must be brought to bear to avoid an environmental disaster. There must be a restructuring of energy generation, industrial and agricultural production, and transport infrastructure to lower carbon emissions. This can only take place when the international working class, the vast majority of humanity, takes control of the levers of society to run it for social need, rather than private profit. In a word, the precondition for attacking global warming is socialism. FROM WORLD SOCIALIST WEBSITE.

Posted 376 days ago.
 
 
 
 

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