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2 hours ago.
by mythravere
harryanderson
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Thankfully, the anti-science propaganda campaign surrounding man-made climate change seems to have lost some of its effect.

Are you seeing storm clouds on the horizon? Two recent studies suggest that the latest anti-science campaign is following its forerunners--the propaganda campaigns attempting to refute science that tobacco causes cancer, that CFC's caused the hole in the ozone layer, and so on—into oblivion. Global warming denial seems to have climbed to a peak in 2010, and global warming acceptance is now climbing. This bodes well for rational public policy.

 
 

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Kendall78

Tired said, "I NEVER said CO2 absorbs radiation liar."

But Tired also said, "It is also the radiation absorbed by CO2."

You may apologize at your convenience.

Posted 198 days ago.

mythravere

Just the other day Senator Harry Reid stated that dealing with the right is often times like trying to catch a greased pig. Just when you get a hold on them they slip out and run away.

Its hilarious that Tiredofit demonstrates that same exact thing.

He's not even making a real argument. He's just on here stirring the pot just for fun.

Posted 198 days ago.

harryanderson

Hahaha. You are right to not hold your breath, Kendall.

Let the onlooker judge. His posts are right there for reasonable viewers to see.

Posted 199 days ago.

harryanderson

Tiredofit is apparently so desperate to "win" this debate he refuses to agree on the most basic fact even skeptical scientists agree on--CO2, when added to the air, traps heat.

Posted 199 days ago.

Kendall78

I am quite certain he will ignore it completely and go off onto another track. But who knows, maybe he will actually apologize.

*snicker*

Yeah...I doubt he will but it was still fun to write.

Posted 199 days ago.

harryanderson

Quite right, Kendall. Tiredofit called you a liar when you said he posted that, but four hours ago he most certainly posted, "It is also the radiation absorbed by CO2." He did not include any quotation marks or attribution of any kind.

You and I, realizing he probably didn't write that, found the source ourselves. And now he claims you lie when you say he posted that.

Posted 199 days ago.

Kendall78

Tired said, "I NEVER said CO2 absorbs radiation liar."

But Tired also said, "It is also the radiation absorbed by CO2."

You may apologize at your convenience.

Posted 199 days ago.

harryanderson

Again you come on here, spout off and insult people, and then declare victory and run off without answering the most basic of questions regarding this issue.

It's your pattern.

Posted 199 days ago.

harryanderson

"YOU say proves co2 is the cause of climate change."

I did not say that. It proves CO2 traps heat.

Do you or do you not believe CO2 traps heat? Can we agree on that?

Posted 199 days ago.

Kendall78

"I demonstrate scientifically that.."

...C02 absorbs radiation. That is what you said. Therefor, CO2 abosrbs heat radiation.

Posted 199 days ago.

harryanderson

Actually, Tiredofit, you seem to be saying that CO2 isn't a greenhouse gas, even after Kendall pointed out the very blog you cited stated it CO2 is a greenhouse gas.

And the most-quoted skeptical scientistist like Judith Curry,, Richard Lindzen and Roy Spencer agree that CO2 is a greenhouse gas. They dispute that it will have a major impact on the planet.

So, Tiredofit, do you or do you not agree that increased CO2 in the atmosphere prevents some heat from radiating into space? For now, let's leave aside the question of how severely we will be impacted. Since we're responsible adults, let's see if we can agree on something basic.

Posted 199 days ago.

harryanderson

No, Tiredofit, I don't agree the experiment is flawed. Not until you explain why it matters how you heat the gasses. Not until you explain why a glass jar full of air isn't representative of the entire atmosphere.

Posted 199 days ago.

Kendall78

"The experiment is flawed, do you agree?"

Flawed as in how? That it isn't a perfect representation of the Earth and it's dynamic atmosphere? I would agree but that's not the point of the experiment now is it?

Does the experiment show that the addition of extra CO2 can make higher temps than without the extra CO2? Yes it does and that's point.

Do you understand now or do you need more assistance?

Posted 199 days ago.

Kendall78

You haven't destroyed anything that the 97% has said little precious one.

Certain infared radiation can pass through glass...your own information said that.

You agreed with the 97% that CO2 absorbs radiation. So unless you are daft, you should agree that more CO2 should mean more absorbtion.

The blog you cited says that CO2 is a greenhouse gas.

Is there anything I have listed here that you don't agree with and why?

Posted 199 days ago.

Kendall78

"It is also the radiation absorbed by CO2."

Soooo...you agree that CO2 absorbs radiation. Therefor more CO2 should absorbed even more radiation..right?

Posted 199 days ago.

Kendall78

"even if 97% of the most-credible experts in the field are wrong."

But no one has shown that the 97% is incorrect. You just have misplaced faith that they are.

"when you start with the name-calling."

Hmm, there is a term that fits in with this about you Tired...oh yeah..hypocrite. That's the behavior you are performing right now..that of a hypocrite.

Posted 199 days ago.

harryanderson

No, I think I made myself clear. As you said, I "don't understand why HOW you heat something might be important."

Why don't you explain it to me?

Posted 199 days ago.

Kendall78

Adam and Eve has nothing to do with the topic. Quit deflecting.

From the very blog you cited Tired, it says that certain infared radition passes through glass. That means you are wrong.

The blog you cited also says that CO2 is a greenhouse gas.

CO2 has been shown to increase the ability of the atmosphere to retain heat energy.

There is no connection between elections and the discussion of Global Warming. If there was, then the Republicans would be winning more positions than they have.

Posted 199 days ago.

harryanderson

Still won't say why it matters, eh, Tiredofit? Just quit and claim victory.

I don't care who wins or loses myself. That's why I'm not, as you wrongly claim, "upset." I know I'll be okay even if 97% of the most-credible experts in the field are wrong.

That's why I don't reciprocate when you start with the name-calling.

Posted 199 days ago.

Kendall78

@Harry- I still think saying he willfully has his head in the sand is pretty spot on.

He doesn't answer any questions that makes him look bad. I asked him multiple times a very straight forward question but he won't answer it because it would hurt his position.

He can't even be bothered with reading the very blog he takes some selective info from. It even says that there is infared radiation that goes through glass but he won't accept that either.

Posted 199 days ago.
 
 
 
 

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