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3 days ago.
by mythravere
harryanderson
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Thankfully, the anti-science propaganda campaign surrounding man-made climate change seems to have lost some of its effect.

Are you seeing storm clouds on the horizon? Two recent studies suggest that the latest anti-science campaign is following its forerunners--the propaganda campaigns attempting to refute science that tobacco causes cancer, that CFC's caused the hole in the ozone layer, and so on—into oblivion. Global warming denial seems to have climbed to a peak in 2010, and global warming acceptance is now climbing. This bodes well for rational public policy.

 
 

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Tiredofit

Fraudulent and hypocritical.

Posted 426 days ago.

Tiredofit

And Harry, what did I say that was NOT factual? Do you think science supports your beliefs? Is the same science that is wrong about creation right about warming? Is the sciennce that claims man evolved from primordial ooze, the one you absolutely believe in regarding supppsed climate change? How do you pick and choose when to believe them and when not to? If I choose to be a skeptic, how can you act as if I am a knuckle dragging mouth breather with a tinfoil hat on, when you deny science daily?

Posted 426 days ago.

Tiredofit

That is why I call you a fraud.

Posted 426 days ago.

Tiredofit

The core of you beliefs are in fact anti science, I share many of your espoused beliefs, so I resent your condescending attitude toward those that do not believe the warming hype.

Posted 426 days ago.

Tiredofit

Again, you avoid the point. You have no right to call anyone anti science.

Posted 426 days ago.

harryanderson

Ithink,

I am not “right.” Only God is right. The words I “preach” from the Bible aren’t mine. They come from God. It’s not my doing if those words make you feel like you’re wrong. God intended them to make you feel like you need to make an adjustment. God says he intends them for “doctrine, reproof, correction, and instruction in righteousness.

And please explain how my opinions on global climate change are “Democratic.” According to a poll I cited a few days ago, many Republicans share them.

Posted 426 days ago.

harryanderson

Tiredofit,

I don’t believe you: I think you do intend to denigrate my faith. When I give Biblical reasons for my positions, and another person repeatedly calls me a fraud for doing so, it seems to me that person intends to denigrate my faith.

Posted 426 days ago.

Tiredofit

Despite the fact that there is a Conservative party, being Conservative is a philosophy not a party, just like being Liberal/socialist.

Posted 426 days ago.

Tiredofit

My intentions are not to denigrate the Christian beliefs, but to illustrate how you must ignore scientific consensus and archeology to believe some of the things in the bible. Next time you are lecturing those who doubt the global warming hoax as science deniers, take a look at yourself.

Posted 426 days ago.

Tiredofit

So Harry despite evidence and logic to the contrary, you believe man came from Adam and Eve is that correct

Posted 426 days ago.

Tiredofit

Independent thought? Myth you are so hypocritical. Go back and read your own posts, see how you filter just about everything through your hatred for all things GWB.

Posted 426 days ago.

Tiredofit

Myth I could call myself a ballerina but I'm not Harry is not conservative although he claims to be a Republican, the two are not mutually exclusive.

Posted 426 days ago.

What a pair. One frequently says he doesn't like either party. But just watch how he ALWAYS sides with the democrats. Who asked you to leave, myth, as you are always complaining about?

The other SAYS he is a republican, but mostly talks the talking points of the democrats. Then, he preaches, as a way of telling us he is right and we are wrong

Posted 427 days ago.

mythravere

Tell me something. How can conservatives bring anything to any debate when they are absolutely not free to bring any kind of independent thought into the debate.

For you guys its either tow the party line or get the heck out.

There is no better example than how you guys treat Harry. Its as if he isn't allowed to call himself a conservative if he has thoughts and positions that dont tow that party line.

That right there flies in the face of freedom!

Posted 427 days ago.

mythravere

Vintage: a period of origin or manufacture

Example: A piano of 1845 vintage.

Another example: A article of 2011 vintage.

Posted 427 days ago.

harryanderson

I don’t know what a Forbes magazine editorial claimed NASA said two years ago. I don’t consider it important because Forbes lacks expertise in the area. Here’s what NASA itself published four days ago about a joint study it conducted with the University of Tasmania:

"’Our research revealed warming of the planet can be clearly detected since 1873 and that our oceans continue to absorb the great majority of this heat,’ said researcher and lead author Will Hobbs of the University of Tasmania's Institute for Marine and Antarctic Studies and the Australian Research Council's Centre of Excellence for Climate System Science. ‘Currently, scientists estimate the oceans absorb more than 90 percent of the heat trapped by greenhouse gases, and we attribute the global warming to anthropogenic (human-produced) causes.’"

ww w.jpl.nasa.gov/news/news.php?release=2013-175

If we want to know what NASA says, I suggest we consult NASA, not a Forbes editorial.

Posted 427 days ago.

harryanderson

“Science does NOT support your Christian beliefs so you are a denier yourself no?”

I sure am.

I’m glad you asked that, tiredofit. I’m always ready to give a reason for the hope that is in me.

My faith requires denial. Hebrews says, “Now faith is…the evidence of things not seen.”

However, non-Biblical knowledge, or things I see, also plays a role in forming my beliefs. Proverbs says, “The fear of the LORD is the beginning of knowledge: but fools despise wisdom and instruction.” So I first look to God. After that, I consult knowledge, or physical evidence, and wisdom, or logic. I don’t despise wisdom and instruction: I put them in their proper place.

When evidence and logic contradict God’s word, I choose to believe God’s word. I do deny: I deny that my eyes and my reason are more reliable than God’s promises.

And that applies directly to the discussion of anthropogenic climate change.

Posted 427 days ago.

When you speak of "2011 vintage", myth, are you implying that 2011 is ancient history?

And here I thought you believed that your scientists could read the unrecorded past and see into the unpredictable future.

Now you act like somethng said in 2011 is worthless old stuff.

Posted 427 days ago.

Tiredofit

Did Jesus rise from the dead? You do know that science would tell you that is not possible right?

Posted 427 days ago.

Tiredofit

Harry, how old is the earth? How did Man come to be on the planet? Science does NOT support your Christian beliefs so you are a denier yourself no?

Posted 427 days ago.
 
 
 
 

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