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3 days ago.
by mythravere
harryanderson
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Thankfully, the anti-science propaganda campaign surrounding man-made climate change seems to have lost some of its effect.

Are you seeing storm clouds on the horizon? Two recent studies suggest that the latest anti-science campaign is following its forerunners--the propaganda campaigns attempting to refute science that tobacco causes cancer, that CFC's caused the hole in the ozone layer, and so on—into oblivion. Global warming denial seems to have climbed to a peak in 2010, and global warming acceptance is now climbing. This bodes well for rational public policy.

 
 

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Tiredofit

Myth, it is the LEFT that requires you to believe as they do or they brand you a racist, denier anti woman etc.

Posted 420 days ago.

Tiredofit

The old Myth arrives

Posted 420 days ago.

mythravere

Harry you must realize and come to terms with the fact that those with whom you converse with on here are incapable of dealing with a nuanced opinion.

They only see things in black or white,on or off.

You either march to the same beat as them or you aren't one of them.

By their own actions it can be shown that they are incapable of any sort of flexibility in the way in which they view the various issues that we face.

The group is what defines how they see issues. The won't and can't go outside the purview of the group in which they reside.

When dealing with such an uncompromising and staunch group of people coming to an understanding on things is as likely to happen as joining a wall in a lively conversation.

They will shoot down everything you say and make you the devil in the process!

Posted 420 days ago.

harryanderson

"I tossed out the N word which is not one I use. You would assign certain character flaws to me for using the language of racists."

No I wouldn't assign any character flaws to you. I'd conclude that you have done an unwise thing, and you probably agree with that assessment. We all do unwise things from time to time.

There's a big difference between attributing fundamental characteristics to people and describing their behavior.

Posted 420 days ago.

Tiredofit

No harry you may not have however if I tossed out the N word which is not one I use. You would assign certain character flaws to me for using the language of racists. I do the same when you toss out the language of the left.

Posted 420 days ago.

harryanderson

"the socialist redistribution drum."

To be clear. I have proposed no such program. Go back and re-read my comments about problem-solving.

Personally, I lament that some have loudly predicted dire consequences unless we take drastic action, and that others have loudly predicted dire consequences if we take any action.

Posted 420 days ago.

harryanderson

"Don't be obtuse, you know that the phrase anti science campaign is a pejorative. The left likes to frame folk like me as nNeanderthals that are flat earthers if we don't march to the socialist redistribution drum."

Again, I don't intend to frame anybody. I characterized an argument, not a person. Go back and read my comments about Cuccinelli, who is a visible actor in the campaign to which I referred.

Nowhere did I call you a neanderthal or flat-earthed.

Besides, I am not am representative of any left. I represent myself.

Posted 420 days ago.

harryanderson

"If you would consider your Sunday sermon an anti science campaign, I would cede that."

Sure. Why not? The Bible contradicts many things that scientists believe.

Posted 420 days ago.

Tiredofit

Not to bring abortion into this debate but its similar in a way. To believe I am anti science and pro global disaster one would have to believe that I hate Obama so bad that I want my son and all my family to roast in an inhabital planet someday. Now how dumb is that.

Posted 420 days ago.

Tiredofit

I happen to be very much pro woman, I have a niece a sister a girlfriend and used to have a mother all of whom I love dearly. To say that I am against them because I disagree with killing the unborn is just a cynical tactic of the left.

Posted 420 days ago.

Tiredofit

Don't be obtuse, you know that the phrase anti science campaign is a pejorative. The left likes to frame folk like me as nNeanderthals that are flat earthers if we don't march to the socialist redistribution drum. Its much like the baby killing crowd saying we are anti choice, or anti women.

Posted 420 days ago.

Tiredofit

If you would consider your Sunday sermon an anti science campaign, I would cede that.

Posted 420 days ago.

harryanderson

Please believe that I didn’t mean to offend you, Tiredofit. I try to avoid offenses because they preclude rational dialogue. I consider it constructive to compete on the field of ideas but, like competition on the athletic field, competition on the idea field is more constructive when the contestants avoid harming one another.

Since you have clearly stated that you consider the term “denier” offensive, I’m all the more convinced that I should avoid it. I can easily express my thoughts with other words.

Lol. I guess I’m being “politically correct” here. Oh, well.

Earlier, you seemed to take umbrage at the phrase “anti-science campaign.” Do you also consider that a pejorative?

Posted 420 days ago.

Tiredofit

The term denier has become a pejorative and implies a tin foil hat and a conspiracy theory. I trust you don't have Reynolds wrap on your head as you reject anthropology and I am sure I don't when I doubt climate science

Posted 421 days ago.

harryanderson

Of course I’m a denier. I deny lots of things. For instance, I deny that anyone has intrinsic authority to dictate what language I use or to manipulate me into knowingly putting others down.

I consider the terms “denier” and “denial” pretty neutral. However, they seem to offend some folks here. So in the spirit of love, peace, kindness, goodness, and gentleness, I’m going my yield right to write as I choose.

I will no longer use the terms denier and denial here.

Posted 422 days ago.

Tiredofit

Let us not use the language of the left, as you sir are a denier so lets not cast stones

Posted 422 days ago.

Tiredofit

Harry I think we have been through the whole denier thing have we mot?

Posted 422 days ago.

Tiredofit

Denial?

Posted 422 days ago.

Tiredofit

Denial?

Posted 422 days ago.

harryanderson

Tiredofit has a point: some of the proposed solutions to anthropogenic global warming involve possibly harmful wealth-distribution schemes.

Let’s do all things decently and in order.

Defining a problem and proposing solutions to it are two separate steps in the problem-solving process. One must first define the problem by identifying its scope and potential harm before proposing solutions.

Both rash radicals who propose drastic solutions too early and science deniers have distorted the problem-solving process.

We do have a problem. However, I’m not satisfied that it requires immediate drastic, possibly harmful action.

We should neither institute immediate worldwide wealth distribution like some radicals want to do nor hinder the definition process like some deniers do.

We should take small steps and encourage the scientists to continue studying.

We should shun both leftist redistribution and rightist denial.

Posted 422 days ago.
 
 
 
 

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