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2 days ago.
by mythravere
harryanderson
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Thankfully, the anti-science propaganda campaign surrounding man-made climate change seems to have lost some of its effect.

Are you seeing storm clouds on the horizon? Two recent studies suggest that the latest anti-science campaign is following its forerunners--the propaganda campaigns attempting to refute science that tobacco causes cancer, that CFC's caused the hole in the ozone layer, and so on—into oblivion. Global warming denial seems to have climbed to a peak in 2010, and global warming acceptance is now climbing. This bodes well for rational public policy.

 
 

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Tiredofit

I suppose just as the world of scientists are in a global conspiracy to deny the garden of eden.

Posted 402 days ago.

harryanderson

“I don’t recall your using the word conspiracy.”

Read that sentence again, Tiredofit, paying particular attention to the words “your using.” I meant to acknowledge that I didn’t recall that you ever used that word. Perhaps I could have phrased that more artfully, like this: I don’t recall that you ever used the word conspiracy.

I gladly admit that I characterized your belief as belief in a conspiracy. Was my characterization accurate? Do you or do you not believe that over 90% of the world's climate scientists are conspiring in, or plotting, a hoax designed to bring about change in the political status quo? Please state your beliefs clearly.

Posted 402 days ago.

Tiredofit

that would be THREE

Posted 402 days ago.

Tiredofit

I will assume you actually did forget and are not outright lying about what you said JUST TRHE HOURS AGO

Posted 402 days ago.

Tiredofit

Harry says I don’t recall your using the word conspiracy With that in mind, are you now willing to restate the basis for your apparent belief that climate science is a political conspiracy we should fear? posted 3 hours ago. For GODS sake harry can you not recall what you wrote just 3 hours ago

Posted 402 days ago.

There is no evidence that climate change is caused by man. The earth changed drastically when humans were very scarce. And before coal and oil were discovered.

Those who want us to regress to those days are wishing for conditions that would kill many people. Including starvation, and death from the lack of medical uses of oil derivatives. Just like the banning of DDT caused untold numbers of deaths in developing countries.

Get rich Al Gore and Michael Moore are laughing like hyenas. And liberals are jumping with joy when they force others to follow their corrupt controlling agenda.

Posted 402 days ago.

harryanderson

I don’t recall your using the word conspiracy. You used the word hoax, if I remember correctly. A hoax is a deception. A conspiracy is a group of people collaborating for a nefarious purpose. A hoax is one form of nefarious purpose. The fact that many scientists are involved in this so-called hoax would suggest a conspiracy.

So do you or do you not believe that over 90% of the world's climate scientists are conspiring in, or plotting, a hoax designed to bring about change in the political status quo? Please state your beliefs clearly.

Posted 402 days ago.

harryanderson

“So to be clear, science is NOT the basis for ALL your beliefs, is that correct?”

Of course not. I’ve tried to honest and sincere about that. I’ve tried to make it clear that the Bible greatly influences my beliefs. Furthermore, the other bases I listed before—culture, training, physical evidence, and group identification—all influence my beliefs to some extent.

I doubt that any sane person living in a free society is influenced only by science, or religion, or culture, or any other single basis. Most humans are much too complex for that.

Posted 402 days ago.

Tiredofit

So to be clear, science is NOT the basis for ALL your beliefs, is that correct?

Posted 402 days ago.

Tiredofit

Did I say it was a conspiracy?

Posted 402 days ago.

harryanderson

I refer you to my previous statement, which you may have overlooked, in which I said that beliefs may have other bases besides physical evidence.

Furthermore, science isn't the only sound basis for a belief. None of us is a perfectly rational creature.

So, what is the basis for your belief that climate science is a political conspiracy?

Posted 402 days ago.

Tiredofit

Lets set the groundrules for our chat. Is scientific opinion to be viewed as truthful for the purpose of our conversion?

Posted 402 days ago.

Tiredofit

Harry I have asked you a direct question care to respond?

Posted 402 days ago.

harryanderson

Any reasonable person should agree that beliefs aren't always based on science. Beliefs may have origins such as religion, cultural preference, training, group identification, and so on.

With that in mind, are you now willing to restate the basis for your apparent belief that climate science is a political conspiracy we should fear?

Posted 402 days ago.

Tiredofit

So lets be sure that scientific opinion is our guide before we go down this road again

Posted 402 days ago.

Tiredofit

Well harry if we are to believe science without question I want to make sure we believe ALL science and not just what fits your agenda.

Posted 402 days ago.

Tiredofit

Harry do you also agree that thousands of scientists agree that man evolved from the sea.

Posted 402 days ago.

harryanderson

There you go raising the straw man again. What does the age of the earth have to do with political paranoia surrounding climate science?

Posted 402 days ago.

Tiredofit

Harry do you agree that thousands of scientists agree the earth is millions of years old

Posted 402 days ago.

harryanderson

“Quite the contrary, Harry. I have on more than one occasion gave reasons for my skepticism.”

I must confess that your straw men have distracted me, apparently causing me to miss your explanation as to why you fear that thousands of scientists at many different institutions working under various political structures within competing cultures are collaborating in a secret agenda to lie about the laws of physics and in order to achieve a worldwide political goal.

For my convenience, would you care to restate the reasons for your fears?

Posted 402 days ago.
 
 
 
 

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