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2 days ago.
by Kendall78
harryanderson
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Thankfully, the anti-science propaganda campaign surrounding man-made climate change seems to have lost some of its effect.

Are you seeing storm clouds on the horizon? Two recent studies suggest that the latest anti-science campaign is following its forerunners--the propaganda campaigns attempting to refute science that tobacco causes cancer, that CFC's caused the hole in the ozone layer, and so on—into oblivion. Global warming denial seems to have climbed to a peak in 2010, and global warming acceptance is now climbing. This bodes well for rational public policy.

 
 

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harryanderson

There’s no sense in my asking the question again. Clearly, you are unwilling or unable to clearly state what your beliefs are, much less defend them. Since you won’t or can’t clarify and defend your views, I can see only 3 options available to me—I can guess at your views and their basis, I can conclude that the issue isn’t particularly important to you, or I can continue to expose your weakness.

None of these 3 options promotes rational discourse. Guessing risks drawing wrong conclusions, expecting a serious answer on an unimportant subject is futile, and continuing to expose your weakness is cruel. Therefore, I see no reason to ask again whether or not you think climate science is a conspiracy to bring about political change.

With that, you are free to ask me anything you like about my views on political conspiracies surrounding climate change.

Posted 398 days ago.

harryanderson

Of course the climate has been changing for millions of years by natural processes. The recent changes caused primarily by human activity, however, are more rapid and therefore threaten a significant portion of the infrastructure we have built.

There you go. You see, I’m unafraid to answer questions. I find it very interesting that you ask a question, and one whole minute later you post, “Why dodge the simple question harry?”

I promptly answered your question, but you haven’t answered the one I asked again and again. You haven’t clearly stated whether or not you think climate science is a conspiracy to bring about political change.

Posted 398 days ago.

Tiredofit

I understand why you are reluctant to answer the question as it exposes your hypocrisy on the topic.

Posted 398 days ago.

Tiredofit

Why dodge the simple question harry?

Posted 398 days ago.

Tiredofit

Harry I say the climate has been changing for millions of years, do you agree?

Posted 398 days ago.

harryanderson

What do carbon dating and the age of the earth have to do with political conspiracies about atmospheric carbon?

Posted 398 days ago.

Tiredofit

Is it a strawman to ask if you believe the carbon dating of science and the age of the earth?

Posted 398 days ago.

Tiredofit

I have little doubt that the climate is changing, as it has been changing for millions of years. You do beleve the earth is millions of years old right?

Posted 398 days ago.

Tiredofit

Not when your argument is that 90% of scientist say so. First, where did that number come from? Secondly, it is NOT a strawman argument when you pretend to believe science when it suits your agenda.

Posted 398 days ago.

harryanderson

I consider the opinion of over 90% of the world's climate scientists to be the best information currently available in the context of a discussion on climate science.

The other issues you raise, like the origin of man, are straw men, and don't seem to have any relevance to a discussion of climate science.

Posted 399 days ago.

Tiredofit

I will ask one last time/ ARE WE TO TREAT SCIENCE AS THE CREDIBLE SOURCE IN OUR DISCUSSION, YES OR NO?

Posted 399 days ago.

Tiredofit

I also imagine there must be a conspiracy to deny the world is millions of years old eh Harry????????????????

Posted 399 days ago.

Tiredofit

I suppose just as the world of scientists are in a global conspiracy to deny the garden of eden.

Posted 399 days ago.

harryanderson

“I don’t recall your using the word conspiracy.”

Read that sentence again, Tiredofit, paying particular attention to the words “your using.” I meant to acknowledge that I didn’t recall that you ever used that word. Perhaps I could have phrased that more artfully, like this: I don’t recall that you ever used the word conspiracy.

I gladly admit that I characterized your belief as belief in a conspiracy. Was my characterization accurate? Do you or do you not believe that over 90% of the world's climate scientists are conspiring in, or plotting, a hoax designed to bring about change in the political status quo? Please state your beliefs clearly.

Posted 399 days ago.

Tiredofit

that would be THREE

Posted 399 days ago.

Tiredofit

I will assume you actually did forget and are not outright lying about what you said JUST TRHE HOURS AGO

Posted 399 days ago.

Tiredofit

Harry says I don’t recall your using the word conspiracy With that in mind, are you now willing to restate the basis for your apparent belief that climate science is a political conspiracy we should fear? posted 3 hours ago. For GODS sake harry can you not recall what you wrote just 3 hours ago

Posted 399 days ago.

There is no evidence that climate change is caused by man. The earth changed drastically when humans were very scarce. And before coal and oil were discovered.

Those who want us to regress to those days are wishing for conditions that would kill many people. Including starvation, and death from the lack of medical uses of oil derivatives. Just like the banning of DDT caused untold numbers of deaths in developing countries.

Get rich Al Gore and Michael Moore are laughing like hyenas. And liberals are jumping with joy when they force others to follow their corrupt controlling agenda.

Posted 399 days ago.

harryanderson

I don’t recall your using the word conspiracy. You used the word hoax, if I remember correctly. A hoax is a deception. A conspiracy is a group of people collaborating for a nefarious purpose. A hoax is one form of nefarious purpose. The fact that many scientists are involved in this so-called hoax would suggest a conspiracy.

So do you or do you not believe that over 90% of the world's climate scientists are conspiring in, or plotting, a hoax designed to bring about change in the political status quo? Please state your beliefs clearly.

Posted 399 days ago.

harryanderson

“So to be clear, science is NOT the basis for ALL your beliefs, is that correct?”

Of course not. I’ve tried to honest and sincere about that. I’ve tried to make it clear that the Bible greatly influences my beliefs. Furthermore, the other bases I listed before—culture, training, physical evidence, and group identification—all influence my beliefs to some extent.

I doubt that any sane person living in a free society is influenced only by science, or religion, or culture, or any other single basis. Most humans are much too complex for that.

Posted 399 days ago.
 
 
 
 

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