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35 days ago.
by slinky
harryanderson
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Thankfully, the anti-science propaganda campaign surrounding man-made climate change seems to have lost some of its effect.

Are you seeing storm clouds on the horizon? Two recent studies suggest that the latest anti-science campaign is following its forerunners--the propaganda campaigns attempting to refute science that tobacco causes cancer, that CFC's caused the hole in the ozone layer, and so on—into oblivion. Global warming denial seems to have climbed to a peak in 2010, and global warming acceptance is now climbing. This bodes well for rational public policy.

 
 

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mythravere

Only an absolute fool would "read" into what the NOAA website is saying right now.

And sure enough we got the fool thatsabsurd latching onto it!

Posted 821 days ago.

Thatsabsurd

*******forecast.weather.gov

Posted 821 days ago.

Thatsabsurd

Current Conditions

Fair

104°F

40°C

Humidity19% Wind SpeedNA BarometerNA Dewpoint54°F (12°C) Visibility10.00 mi Heat Index102°F (39°C)

Last Update on 29 Jan 2:53 pm EST

Current conditions at

Parkersburg, Mid Ohio Valley Regional Airport (KPKB)

Lat: 39.36°N Lon: 81.43°W Elev: 831ft.

More Local Wx | 3 Day History | Mobile Weather 3 Miles SW Parkersburg WV

Posted 821 days ago.

Thatsabsurd

LOL Noaa has been deliberately altering the temperature recordings of the last few weeks(just like they did the great lakes temps of over 400) They have Parkersburg, WV listed at 104f today. In six months some of the same idiots posting on here that regurgitate the lie of GW will refer back to this date and temp as their evidence that the world is getting hotter.

The only thing is they will believe without a doubt it was true. So get used to it people todays temperature in Parkersburg is 104f.

Posted 821 days ago.

harryanderson

And I've seen anything called "how to talk to a denier."

I can spot exaggerations and falsehoods without such help.

Posted 821 days ago.

harryanderson

I don't go to websites such as the one you describe. Sounds to political for me.

Posted 821 days ago.

harryanderson

Here’s an example of unexaggerated, concrete language:

195 out of the 200 climate scientists who have most published peer-reviewed papers and been most cited in other papers believe mankind’s activities have contributed to global warming.

Posted 821 days ago.

Thatsabsurd

PEER REVIEW LOL LOL LOL the only ones they can get to agree are their peers.....anyone else who ever vetted it from the science world called it hogwash from the beginning.

So lets look ate the credentials of their peers............

Accountants without any jobs kills......self-proclaim to be "Climate Scientists) Literature degrees unable to find employment become staff to the "self-proclaimed' climate science world, expounding on their world of 'make-believe"

and then you have the imbecile loyal followers wearing their Tin-foil hats salivating over their every word.........

Some of which you can find on this very forum.

Posted 821 days ago.

harryanderson

“And just how do you propose to do that”

First, let’s stop exaggerating. Let’s look at some of the exaggerations you have made just this morning.

“It's clearly accepted as she said to gain funding.” You exaggerated. She didn’t say it was “accepted.” She said it was done.

“According to you and your president there is no uncertainty.” I’ve already dealt with this falsehood.

“those that are on the gravy train” You exaggerated. Climate scientists aren’t getting rich.

“Emails clearly show deception and secrecy.” You exaggerated, according to multiple independent investigations.

So, as a first step, I propose we stop using sensational exaggerated language such as “accepted,” “ no uncertainty,” “gravy train,” and “clearly.”

So will you agree to stop exaggerating?

Posted 821 days ago.

harryanderson

That's not true. I never said there was no uncertainty. I said over 97% of the most expert climate scientists, determined by peer-reviewed publications and citations, agree with the IPCC.

Would you like to change that percentage? It can be done.

Posted 821 days ago.

harryanderson

So how do we reduce the uncertainty?

Posted 821 days ago.

harryanderson

I also agree that the science has been exaggerated in the non-scientific, popular press. But has it been exaggerated in peer-reviewed publications? Are you interested in conducting further research to clear this matter up?

Posted 822 days ago.

harryanderson

“He simply says, and rightfully so, that the science is both uncertain and very much exaggerated.”

I agree with you, Tiredofit. Climate science has uncertainties, particularly with respect to predictions. Since we agree on this, are you interested in conducting further research to reduce the uncertainty?

Posted 822 days ago.

harryanderson

Clarification. The last paragraph should read: That’s why the counter climate change movement doesn’t want to reduce the scientific uncertainty—doubt allows them to advance their political agenda. Like their predecessors in the tobacco industry, doubt is their product.

Posted 822 days ago.

harryanderson

These climate scientists have bravely continued to publish the results of their research in the face of persecution from powerful politicians like Ken Cuccinelli and Lord Monkton.

Tiredofit said “it’s a political agenda, not a scientific discussion.” Climate scientist Michael Mann understands how Tiredofit feels. Mann wrote, “Attacks on science and scientists are an effort to advance a political agenda, not an effort to better understand science or the risks it uncovers.”

That’s why they don’t want to reduce the scientific uncertainty—doubt allows them to advance their political agenda. Like their predecessors in the tobacco industry, doubt is their product.

Posted 822 days ago.

harryanderson

Attacks on science and scientists are an effort to advance a political agenda, not an effort to better understand science or the risks it uncovers.

Posted 822 days ago.

harryanderson

There is a lot of cultural warfare, politics, and hype around this issue.

Despite all the sensationalism and politics, 97.4% of the 200 most expert climate scientists, meaning those who have most researched, most subjected their work to peer review, and been most cited by other climate scientists, “% “fully agree…anthropogenic greenhouse gases have been responsible for ‘most’ of the ‘unequivocal’ warming of the Earth’s average global temperature over the second half of the 20th century.”

Sensationalism gets the attention of those who consider it a political, rather than scientific, issue. For example, look how the political types keep sensationalizing the phony “Climategate” scandal, despite the fact that at least 8 investigations have concluded that the East Anglia e-mails didn’t undermine the climate scientists’ work.

We need to drop the politics. It’s an engineering problem with an engineering solution.

Posted 822 days ago.

harryanderson

"only sensational exaggeration makes the kind of story that will get politicians' - and readers' - attention."

That's quite an indictment of both politicians and the average reader.

Posted 822 days ago.

Bill Clinton's lies have been back in the news. What a dilemma to decide who is the bigger liar, him or obama.

Which is the larger whopper? "I didn't have ### with that woman, not a single time." Or..."if you like your healthcare, you can keep your healthcare" He will probably out lie even that big one tonighht.

Before you start on WMD, remember all the democrats who said it first. And it is recorded for posterity..

Posted 822 days ago.

Tomorow night you can spend your time defending your socialist leaning idol. His words mean nothing. The polls show that many disillusioned voters know that now.

As usual, I won't waste my time watching him, but I will read the fairy tale words. Just to be informed. What a joke he is.

Posted 823 days ago.
 
 
 
 

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