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by Stillhere
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Thankfully, the anti-science propaganda campaign surrounding man-made climate change seems to have lost some of its effect.

Are you seeing storm clouds on the horizon? Two recent studies suggest that the latest anti-science campaign is following its forerunners--the propaganda campaigns attempting to refute science that tobacco causes cancer, that CFC's caused the hole in the ozone layer, and so on—into oblivion. Global warming denial seems to have climbed to a peak in 2010, and global warming acceptance is now climbing. This bodes well for rational public policy.

 
 

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mythravere

We are seeing its effects right now. WHAT EFFECTS NO HURRICANS NO TORNADOS RECORD COLD>?

Look at the drought out in California.

A lot of the water reservoirs are down to critical levels because less snow is falling the mountains.

A dependable yearly amount of flow of snowmelt going through the region is why those reservoirs were built in the first place.

The yearly snowfall that filled those reservoirs is as much anymore is it?

Why?

Posted 201 days ago.

mythravere

We know some of what will happen with that warming. YOU SAID NO ONE CAN SAY WITH CERTAINTY

I was talking about weather on a seasonal day by day basis.

Skewed that one.

Posted 201 days ago.

Thatsabsurd

Sorry Kendell the only way to quantify science is by math...Period.

Posted 201 days ago.

mythravere

Oh god you are ignorant and like to skew what I say.

Posted 201 days ago.

mythravere

We know what's causing the warming.

We know some of what will happen with that warming.

We are seeing its effects right now.

None of its good.

Posted 201 days ago.

mythravere

Tiredofit do you know what wind shear is?

Its one of the things that can make a hurricane not form.

If weather patterns change in such a way the wind shear becomes more likely in the areas where hurricanes form then we will see less hurricanes more than likely.

Thats the thing right there. Our weather patterns we see from season to season may not follow what we have historically seen in them.

Posted 201 days ago.

mythravere

No. You are wrong. No one can say with certainty exactly how global warming will change the variables that give rise to our seasonal weather patterns.

Posted 201 days ago.

mythravere

Also I am not scared. I am concerned.

I say let climate change happen.

That way when it does happen people like yourself will only exist in the history books.

Posted 201 days ago.

mythravere

I don't play sports. I don't watch sports.

Not enough intellectual stimulation.

So this game you are playing. You're swinging your own bat.

LOL!

Posted 201 days ago.

mythravere

No swing and miss. It just demonstrates that some requisite conditions were not present that would have made those hurricanes.

In fact. This shows your own stupidity. Hurricanes could very well become less numerous with climate change.

Its seasonal weather patterns that cause them. We may very well see less storms but more powerful storms.

Look up Typhoon Haiyan.

Posted 201 days ago.

mythravere

Well heat is energy and what does heat/energy usually do in the atmosphere?

It usually causes adverse weather in one extreme or another.

And all of those things you mentioned can make life difficult for people.

Is there something wrong with fearing those things happen to yourself or being concerned about them?

Its simply true that we can see more adverse weather with a warming planet.

Posted 201 days ago.

mythravere

Fear tactics?

What? Like this idea that the left is socialist and that they are trying to make this into socialist utopia?

Thats what you are told Tiredofit and that is what you fear.

Never mind the facts.

And you have bought right into it.

Thats why your position on climate change is so rigid. You will not concede any facts about climate change as being truthful when they are truthful.

Your opinion on this issue is compromised.

Because you can not honestly debate this issue your opinion is irrelevant.

Posted 201 days ago.

mythravere

Actually there are more and more conservatives who believe that man has a hand in the warming the world is seeing and action should be taken on climate change.

The only problem is that for the most part those people are never heard because once they take that position they are sidelined and marginalized by their own brethren.

Conservative media won't give it coverage because they aren't allowed to.

The conservative message is owned lock stock and barrel by interests who take great issue with climate change.

Posted 201 days ago.

Kendall78

@Ithink- it would be nicer if all politicians could do their jobs without costing so much or polluting so much but it really can't be helped.

I am pretty sure the next conservative Prez will be polluting and costing the US as much as Obama.

Posted 201 days ago.

You all should be preaching to the jet flying abusing obamas and Holder. We pay billiions to send them all over the world again and again, doing their poluting. Why is she in China? Did you see the unbelievable amount we paid for him to go to Brussels for one night ?

The obamas cost us 1.4 BILLION dollars in the last year while they were poluting the earth.

And Holder uses gov planes for private travelling all the time. They are the ones making the dirt you talk about.

I am a conservative, and I conserve.

Posted 201 days ago.

mythravere

Those people love to say man doesn't have the power to affect the climate of this world.

Well have they ever looked and seen all the roads that criss cross this planet? And not just the ones on the ground but the routes airplanes take.

And the whole entire time their engines are running they are spewing out Co2.

Its the cummulative effect of mankind that gives mankind the ability to affect the climate of this world.

Posted 201 days ago.

mythravere

And when the reasoning behind all the comments that are arrayed against global warming are boiled down to their basic motivation what do we find?

Its a political or ideological disagreement that causes them to take the position they do.

Supporting their cause is more important than the facts.

Posted 201 days ago.

mythravere

I have the intellect to understand that taking billions of tons of carbon in the ground and releasing it into the atmosphere is going to cause changes to our atmosphere.

I understand that the burning of carbon based fuels releases co2. Co2 is a heat trapping gas.

Trapping heat on the earth is going to do what?

Warm it up! WOW!

That is basic science.

Anyone that denies that either knows nothing about science or is denying it because of political and ideological reasons.

Posted 201 days ago.

mythravere

The my teachers said that it was strange that I was good at science and had issues with math because they usually go hand in hand. When you are good at one you are good at the other.

My issue is that I can't keep numbers in my head as I am doing math problems. Numbers easily fall out of memory or get jumbled up.

I honestly have no idea why that is.

But I guess having that kind of handicap makes my opinion worthless right?

Only to scumbags. Because only a scumbag would take an honest admission of a fault from someone and use it against them.

Posted 201 days ago.

Kendall78

@Thats- could you explain how your firm grip on math has allowed you to come to the conclusion that man is not contributing to global warming but that something else is the deciding factor?

Posted 201 days ago.
 
 
 
 

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