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3 hours ago.
by mythravere
harryanderson
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Thankfully, the anti-science propaganda campaign surrounding man-made climate change seems to have lost some of its effect.

Are you seeing storm clouds on the horizon? Two recent studies suggest that the latest anti-science campaign is following its forerunners--the propaganda campaigns attempting to refute science that tobacco causes cancer, that CFC's caused the hole in the ozone layer, and so on—into oblivion. Global warming denial seems to have climbed to a peak in 2010, and global warming acceptance is now climbing. This bodes well for rational public policy.

 
 

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mythravere

" All your predictions and models have proven FALSE."

How do you know they are false?

Care to share the information?

If you don't then that pretty much means you are a smoke blowing troll.

Posted 255 days ago.

Kendall78

Going back to the quote in question, "So, yes, climate scientists might exaggerate"

Do you know what the word "might" means Tired? Here is a hint, it doesn't mean it's a fact.

Again and again and again, do you have any real evidence that the vast majority of climate science that states that mankind is involved with climate change is lies?

Yes or no

Posted 255 days ago.

Kendall78

I suggest you learn the art of using quotation marks. It would help you a great deal.

Posted 255 days ago.

Kendall78

But if you really like Dyson and will believe him then here is a quote, "One of the main causes of warming is the increase of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere resulting from our burning of fossil fuels such as oil and coal and natural gas."

Posted 255 days ago.

Kendall78

National Climatic Data Center director Tom Karl, "It's critically important to compile a big picture....The signs that we see are of a warming world."

Posted 255 days ago.

Kendall78

Freeman Dyson is a theoretical physicist and mathematician. What he is not is a climate scientists involved with NOAA.

He might know if findings are lies being told in the fields he works with but there is no evidence from him that is happening in regards to the research in climate change.

Try to avoid the scientists that are not climatologists.

Posted 255 days ago.

Kendall78

"that was the head of the noaa climate program ADMITTING climatology lies to get reactions and funding."

Umm..no. That was not said at all.

Posted 255 days ago.

Kendall78

"What made it change 20,000 years ago, as someone mentioned?"

Is what happened 20,000 year ago relevant to the change in climate in the last few centuries?

Posted 255 days ago.

Kendall78

"Can't explain that away!"

You're right, you can't explain away that Dyson has an opinion on opinions.

Posted 255 days ago.

No one doubts that the climate changes. It always has and always will. What made it change 20,000 years ago, as someone mentioned?. It sure wasn't caused by burning WV coal.

Posted 255 days ago.

h ttp://w ww.forbes.c om/sites/patrickmichaels/2014/02/03/will-the-overselling-of-global-warming-lead-to-a-new-scientific-dark-age/

" Will the overselling of climate change lead to a new scientific dark age? That’s the question being posed in the latest issue of an Australian literary journal, Quadrant, by Garth Paltridge, one of the world’s most respected atmospheric scientists."

Posted 255 days ago.

harryanderson

Ithink, echoing Tiredofit, wrote, “Efforts to get big money grants have led to the distortion and falsifying of statistics.”

There sure has been big money offered—to disprove the IPCC 2007 report.

“Scientists and economists have been offered $10,000 each by a lobby group funded by one of the world's largest oil companies to undermine a major climate change report due to be published today.”

htt p://ww w.theguardian.co m/environment/2007/feb/02/frontpagenews.climatechange

That’s following the money.

BTW: Did anyone ever claim this bounty?

Posted 255 days ago.

mythravere

" Once science loses complete credibility with the public"

That won't happen. Its only "losing" credibility with those who don't like what it says.

Making claims about the credibility of science is a tactic meant to undermine the influence of scientific authority.

The issue of man made climate change has been labeled a leftwing cause. Calling into question the science of that issue and the scientists themselves is a matter of rightwing policy now.

No compromise...they say....remember that. Acknowledging the veracity of something that is seen as a leftwing cause goes against the rule of no compromise. Doing so is tantamount to aiding and abetting the enemy in the eyes of many a rightwinger. Especially rightwing media mouths.

Posted 255 days ago.

harryanderson

A prosecutor named Pruitt was deciding whether to charge a suspect, Lawyer Bink, with firing the fatal shot. Bink, presented testimony from 201 of his fellow lawyers saying he was a good lawyer.

Pruitt submitted Bink’s gun and the bullet to the world’s top 200 ballistics experts. 194 (97%) of them said Bink’s gun “unequivocally” fired the fatal shot.

Pruitt charged Bink with the crime. His assistant asked him why, since the testimony of 201 professionals in favor of Bink seemed to outweigh the testimony of 194 professionals on the other side. Pruitt said, “The lawyers don’t have the relevant expertise. When 97% of those with the most relevant expertise say Pruitt’s gun fired the fatal shot, the jury will see it as proof beyond a reasonable doubt that the shot came from his gun.”

Posted 255 days ago.

We are in a new scientific dark age according to some articles I read. Science has been taken over by political ideology. Efforts to get big money grants have led to the distortion and falsifying of statistics. Once science loses complete credibility with the public, it will be hard to get back.

Forbes has an enlightening new article.

Posted 255 days ago.

Kendall78

Except my belief is backed up by facts where your belief is backed up by wishful thinking.

Posted 256 days ago.

Kendall78

"It is not for me to prove that man IS NOT changing the climate its up to YOU to prove he is."

It is for you to prove what you feel to be the truth. You think it is merely a natural cycle, yet you have no evidence to back that up.

Those that hold that the climate is being effected by mankind has offered up evidence to support that conclusion. In response, you opt for the "head in the sand" strategy and ignore what you do not want to hear and offer nothing in a form of an educated rebuttal.

Posted 256 days ago.

Kendall78

"Natural cycle as I have said many many times."

You say many thing but you offer no evidence to back it up.

Posted 256 days ago.

Kendall78

"Ahhh so you ask ME to prove a negative"

Umm...no. You do not believe that mankind is effecting global climate change. Therefor you must believe that something else is responsible for the climate change. We are merely asking you to provide evidence to that. Thus far, you have not.

Posted 256 days ago.

mythravere

Short bus out!

Posted 256 days ago.
 
 
 
 

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