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5 hours ago.
by Kendall78
harryanderson
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Thankfully, the anti-science propaganda campaign surrounding man-made climate change seems to have lost some of its effect.

Are you seeing storm clouds on the horizon? Two recent studies suggest that the latest anti-science campaign is following its forerunners--the propaganda campaigns attempting to refute science that tobacco causes cancer, that CFC's caused the hole in the ozone layer, and so on—into oblivion. Global warming denial seems to have climbed to a peak in 2010, and global warming acceptance is now climbing. This bodes well for rational public policy.

 
 

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harryanderson

I read the Huffington Post article you cited, Ithink.

It started, “In a stunning development today, the community of global climate scientists announced that the problem of global warming is actually one of global cooling, overturning decades of previously accepted, peer-reviewed science.”

It’s dated April 1. In the comments, the author, Mr. Gleick, writes,

“Dear Readers,

“Thank you all for your comments. And since it is now April 2nd, I've reposted the graphs with the /right/ units and plots, so we can (alas) remind ourselves of the reality of the fix we're in.

“Here is the link to the (non-April-Fools-Day) graphs. htt p://ww w.huffingtonpost.co m/peter-h-gleick/oh-wait-the-earth-really_b_3003216.html”

In other words, Ithink, Gleick fooled you with an April Fool’s joke. You really should learn to read stuff with understanding before you cite it.

You cited it. I don’t like to cite HuffPost because I consider it biased against us Republicans.

Posted 251 days ago.

Must be socialists' night to howl. Hope you don't rob Santa's sleigh to get trinkets for your worthless red party.

Posted 251 days ago.

mythravere

Ithink please tell me..honestly please..that you knew the Huffington Post article was an April Fools joke.

Goodness if that slipped past you. I am actually going to feel sorry for you.

Posted 251 days ago.

Trying hard to imagine you laughng, harry. Was it your pretend republican laugh or your lunatic liberal laugh? Or the obamacare is great smirk?

Posted 251 days ago.

mythravere

Alright now. I've had my suspicions about this but there is only one other explanation for Ithinks actions.

Either Ithink is trolling. Or Ithink is seriously having cognitive troubles.

I am going with trolling on this one.

She posts and April Fools joke and an article from January 2002.

So..yep...um..lol!

Posted 251 days ago.

Kendall78

" SO that is your standard of pollution?"

When talking to the simple, one must lower the standards of communication so they might (not that they will..just might) understand. But if you want to go down the slippery slope fallacy..go right ahead.

Posted 251 days ago.

Kendall78

"Oh, for a carefree liberal utopia...."

And that is where he went right over the edge.

Posted 251 days ago.

h ttp://****huffingtonpost.c om/peter-h-gleick/breaking-news-climate-cha_b_2994164.h tml

h ttp://ww2.odu.edu/ao/instadv/quest/Greenhouse.h tml

myth , from the rock. If I lied so do many web sites.

Posted 251 days ago.

harryanderson

I laughed when I went to the CNS page cited by Ithink. It starts by acknowledging that “worldwide, 2012 was among the 10 warmest years on record.” Then, in a lame-o attempt to justify the headline, it continues, “…[2012] was one of the coolest of the decade, and thus confirms the cooling trend.”

Here’s what CNS leaves out: The hottest years on record were, in order:

1. 2010

2. 2005

3. 2007

4. 1998

5. 2002

6. 2003

7. 2006

8. 2009

9. 2012

10. 2011.

ww w.politifact.co m/truth-o-meter/statements/2013/feb/15/barack-obama/barack-obama-says-12-hottest-years-record-have-com/

So it’s deceptive to claim a cooling trend, since that particular decade contained nine of the ten warmest years ever recorded.

It should be noted that 10 years isn’t long enough to establish a climate trend anyway. It always amuses me how the counter climate change movement will grasp at any straw in their desperation.

Posted 251 days ago.

Tiredofit

"but co2 is not a pollutant"

Neither is salt but it will kill the fish in the aquarium just the same. SO that is your standard of pollution? A hammer is a tool but applied to ones forehead can be deadly. Geez you guys are a trip.

Posted 251 days ago.

It is sure a good thing that rabies spit isn't spread by computers.

Poor myth. His religion is based on proven wrong wacko theories about the temperature of the earth 500 years from now. Poor soul is so abused by God loving people who evidently want to whack his head off. You know, like those religions he defends cut off heads.

We are so impressed with your expertise,myth, and the high brow way you present it. Did you spend time in the Chicago slums with the infamous organizer? Similiar styles of lies. But his are more famous. Didn't he have the top 3 lies of the year? Sorry you lost that honor, but you are doing good at it.

Posted 251 days ago.

harryanderson

Tiredofit,

You complained, “Gee a liberal court ruling if favor of socialist position.”

That ruling was made in 2007 by the US Supreme Court under Chief Justice John Roberts. “Massachusetts vs. EPA” doesn’t mean it was a Massachusetts court; it means the Commonwealth of Massachusetts was the plaintiff.

Most people wouldn’t consider the Roberts Court a liberal court given to issuing socialist opinions.

Say, Tiredofit,

Do you suppose I could say “counter climate change movement” without you whining that I’ve used, in your parlance, “a derogatory term”?

After all, you did call “denier” a derogatory term.

I’d hate to upset your delicate sensitivities!!

Posted 251 days ago.

mythravere

So righties. Are you winning this argument?

Are you beating me? Hmmmm!

Posted 251 days ago.

mythravere

Goodness I must be sadist. I mean why else would I continue to argue with stupid?

Because you know what they say about arguing with stupid...they'll beat you with experience.

Posted 251 days ago.

mythravere

Why is it these (clearly right wing) "news" outlets must dress themselves up and put on this false facade to give themselves credibility?

Not to mention hiding the heck out of their funding sources!

Its..just so important that you don't/can't look behind the curtain.

Posted 251 days ago.

mythravere

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHhhhahahahahahah!

CNS News! The RIGHT News! Right NOOOOOOOOOOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (deadpan)

Formerly know as the Conservative News Service.

So....lol...The right news right now....is that the same thing as another news service being "fair" and "balanced"?

Hmmm..bhwaaahahahahahahah!

Posted 251 days ago.

Tiredofit

Oh Fraudie McFraud, you do amuse.

Posted 251 days ago.

Tiredofit

Gee a liberal court ruling if favor of socialist position. Massachusetts REALLY HARRY, they buy this Leftist BS, blow me over with a feather, wait a minute, don't blow, your breath contains POLUTANTS.

Posted 251 days ago.

Tiredofit

You people are a riot

Posted 251 days ago.

harryanderson

As to whether CO2 is a pollutant, the Supreme Court, in Massachusetts vs. EPA, gave the EPA authority to declare it a pollutant under the Clean Air Act (CCA).

The Court ruled: “The (EPA) Administrator shall by regulation prescribe (and from time to time revise) in accordance with the provisions of this section, standards applicable to the emission of any air pollutant from any class or classes of new motor vehicles or new motor vehicle engines, which in his judgment cause, or contribute to, air pollution which may reasonably be anticipated to endanger public health or welfare.”[9]

According to the CAA, an air pollutant is "any air pollution agent or combination of such agents, including any physical, chemical, biological, radioactive . . . substance or matter which is emitted into or otherwise enters the ambient air".

And the Court stated that "greenhouse gases fit well within the CAA’s capacious definition of air pollutant."

Posted 251 days ago.
 
 
 
 

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