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3 minutes ago.
by Tiredofit
harryanderson
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Thankfully, the anti-science propaganda campaign surrounding man-made climate change seems to have lost some of its effect.

Are you seeing storm clouds on the horizon? Two recent studies suggest that the latest anti-science campaign is following its forerunners--the propaganda campaigns attempting to refute science that tobacco causes cancer, that CFC's caused the hole in the ozone layer, and so on—into oblivion. Global warming denial seems to have climbed to a peak in 2010, and global warming acceptance is now climbing. This bodes well for rational public policy.

 
 

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Tiredofit

No one cares what a fraudulent WV republican thinks.

Posted 253 days ago.

harryanderson

“Oh Kendall take a hard look at the UN and IPCC see what they have to gain.”

I did take a hard look at the IPCC. It claims “It reviews and assesses the most recent scientific, technical and socio-economic information produced worldwide relevant to the understanding of climate change.”

I believe that’s what they have to gain—to assess the latest data and provide a knowledge base for policymakers of all political persuasions.

I’ve seen no credible evidence that the IPCC was set up to rob us of our freedoms, as some folks have suggested.

Posted 253 days ago.

harryanderson

When discussing what climate is normal , it’s useful to consider the past record. A study this year found “Surface temperature reconstructions of the past 1500 years suggest that recent warming is unprecedented in that time.”

****sciencemag.or g/content/339/6124/1198.abstract So, if the warming is unprecedented over the last 1500 years, it’s safe to say the recent warming isn’t “normal.” Since the climate is warming at an abnormal pace, we should be thinking of how we’re going to adapt to it.

Posted 253 days ago.

Tiredofit

Oh Kendall take a hard look at the UN and IPCC see what they have to gain

Posted 253 days ago.

Tiredofit

Well hear what ihave said, define normal, follow the money and understand your information may be biased

Posted 253 days ago.

Kendall78

I'm too much of a redhead to ever consider too warm as good ;)

Posted 253 days ago.

Tiredofit

So KENDALL, lets embrace the warming trend, it will be good for mankind.

Posted 253 days ago.

Kendall78

If by "warm" you include such things as the depleted ozone layer...I will disagree it is good.

Posted 253 days ago.

harryanderson

As to the suggestion that there is no proof rising CO2 levels are warming the earth.

The over 600 scientists who contributed to the IPCC 5th assessment disagree. The assessment concluded that the human influence on global warming is

“unequivocal.”

Posted 253 days ago.

Kendall78

Normal is based on averages. As the graphs in this article shows, the last few decades have been anything but on average and therefor not normal. (h t t p://w w w.vancouverobserver.c o m/blogs/climatesnapshot/we-just-experienced-4000-years-global-warming-two-decades)

Posted 253 days ago.

Tiredofit

Couldn't care less what you have to say Harry

Posted 253 days ago.

harryanderson

As to the suggestion that the climate models have all failed.

Gavin Schmidt of NASA, who provided a usable explanation of climate modeling, says they haven’t failed. He concluded:

“Climate models are unmatched in their ability to quantify otherwise qualitative hypotheses and generate new ideas that can be tested against observations. The models are far from perfect, but they have successfully captured fundamental aspects of air, ocean, and sea-ice circulations and their variability. They are therefore useful tools for estimating the consequences of humankind's ongoing and audacious planetary experiment.”

ww w.giss.nasa.gov/research/briefs/schmidt_04/

Posted 253 days ago.

Tiredofit

IE is giving me fits sorry for double posts

Posted 253 days ago.

Tiredofit

That being said, warmer is better for mankind than cooler so I embrace a warming trend although I realize I have NOTHING to do with it.

Posted 253 days ago.

Tiredofit

That being said, warmer is better for mankind than cooler so I embrace a warming trend although I realize I have NOTHING to do with it.

Posted 253 days ago.

Tiredofit

There is NO PROOF WHATSOEVER that CO2 is raising the temps in the world.

Posted 253 days ago.

Tiredofit

What makes you think the 20th century is NORMAL and the ICE AGE is abnormal?

Posted 253 days ago.

Tiredofit

Are glaciers across northern Ohio Normal??? They were at one time. What makes you think that the climate of the 20th century was any more "normal" than that of the ice age?????

Posted 253 days ago.

Tiredofit

the Earth's overall temp is rising faster than it should under normal circumstances And what are normal circumstances?????? What do you base that on????? How quickly did the earth warm during the exit of the last ice age>?????

Posted 253 days ago.

Kendall78

I do not ignore failed predictions. However, unlike some people...I do not ignore the overall fact that the Earth's overall temp is rising faster than it should under normal circumstances.

Just because the predictions were not spot on, the important fact to glean from the research is that the Earth's overall temp is rising and it is having an effect upon the overall climate.

It comes down to this..the world is getting warmer. It's either due to mankind's added influence to an already unstable climate system or....what? Nature just up and decided to speed up warming with no evidence to why.

Posted 253 days ago.
 
 
 
 

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