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47 minutes ago.
by Kendall78
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Thankfully, the anti-science propaganda campaign surrounding man-made climate change seems to have lost some of its effect.

Are you seeing storm clouds on the horizon? Two recent studies suggest that the latest anti-science campaign is following its forerunners--the propaganda campaigns attempting to refute science that tobacco causes cancer, that CFC's caused the hole in the ozone layer, and so on—into oblivion. Global warming denial seems to have climbed to a peak in 2010, and global warming acceptance is now climbing. This bodes well for rational public policy.

 
 

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Kendall78

"you believe what you choose to and I will do the same."

You are just upset because I tell you the way things are and you just hope for the world to be they way you wish.

"Really there is no need to try to set up meetings that will not bode well."

Why? Can't handle your beer? Planning on doing something other than telling your side of the debate? What are you afraid of exactly?

Posted 198 days ago.

Kendall78

"ahh Kendall you are an argumentative..."

Typical ad hominem attack. Try again.

Posted 198 days ago.

Kendall78

More tinfoil hat wearing conspiracy talk from Tired.

"There has been no significant warming for nearly two decades"

What is significant? Is the previous 2 decades warmer than the 2 decades that came befor?

"A govt that spies on it's citizens"

Are you talking about the US or the UK. You have gotten your info from the UK.

"Every possible solution to this imaginary problem"

The average temp for the planet going up is not imaginary.

Posted 198 days ago.

moderation

Yes, I am. They are worth their salt, again.Now, I have to go earn mine, at my own pace,of course.

Posted 198 days ago.

Kendall78

What is kind of comical about your approach on all this is you are a hypocrite. It's not name calling, it is a fact.

You say that groups like the IPCC has a political agenda because they are associated with the govt. However, where did you get this wonderous "no increase in the last 17 years" stuff? It originated with the Met Office that gets funding from the British Govt.

So you rather believe the Brits instead of your own country..tsk tsk tsk.

Posted 198 days ago.

Kendall78

"Global temperatures are essentially the same today as they were in 1995"

1. And what the average worldwide temp the 17 years prior to that? Lower or higher? Why is it so hard for you to answer this?

2. Global Warming has not stopped. The only way one could say that Global Warming has stalled is if they ignore the oceans altogether. Tired, does it make any sense to ignore 71% of the planet? That is what you are doing when you say that Global Warming has stopped.

Posted 198 days ago.

Kendall78

"EPA's Leading Climate Change Expert Pleads Guilty to Elaborate Fraud"

But not to what I posted...you failed there Tired.

"The EPA's Agenda: Undermine Capitalism and America"

No evidence and even the claim has nothig to do with what I posted...another fail.

Posted 198 days ago.

moderation

tired- try to keep up, as you have suggested.I only asked if you could qualify your pronouncement by undeniable proof.There are many phenomena that are,just that,...the lacking of a verification of cause and effect.The ozone issue is a good example of science and governments working together. And an industry had to re-tool, so!

Posted 198 days ago.

Kendall78

Anyway, have a good lunch or whatever. :)

Posted 198 days ago.

Kendall78

You'll probably ignore it for no good reason but here: w w w.epa.gov/climatechange/science/indicators/oceans/sea-surface-temp.h tm l

if you do dismiss it, please have the guts to offer up evidence that supports your conclusion at least.

Posted 198 days ago.

Kendall78

"Sorry Kendall just isn't so."

Sorry Tired, it is. Took care of that argument.

Posted 198 days ago.

Kendall78

"yet the temps have levelled off"

This leveling off...is the average higher than it was 25 years ago? Yes or no?

Posted 198 days ago.

Kendall78

"and are actually cooling in many areas."

A typical failure on your part. The planet hasn't cooled on the avergae so you have to resort to saying (without evidence) that other places have cooled.

Try again when you have some evidence that the planet (you do understand what "global" in global warming means right?) has cooled on the average.

Posted 198 days ago.

Kendall78

" the warming would be continuing just as co2 has continued"

It has, you don't pay attention to the oceanic temps do you?

Posted 198 days ago.

Kendall78

" carbon in any form cannot be scientifically linked to global warming"

Actually it has, you just won't accept it. Please review the dozens of previous pages if you want the evidence. Though you won't or you'll lie about doing it.

Posted 198 days ago.

Kendall78

Let's clear out Tired's silly argument about giving up everything that involves fossil fuels is a logical step to take.

His argument is thus; If one says that carbon is the cause for global warming, they should therefor quit using anything that involves carbon.

That would be like saying, If one believes that guns are the cause for shootings, then they should get rid of all their guns.

Pure foolishness because Tired ignores common sense. No one on here has ever implied that we should (as a species) give up the use of fossil fuels and such, only that we should use them better. Just like it would be dumb to get rid of all guns to prevent shootings, you teach people to use weapons responsibly.

Posted 198 days ago.

Kendall78

"Be part of the solution, lead by example."

I am...I'm trying to weed out ignorance by asking you questions.

Posted 198 days ago.

Kendall78

What you seem to fail to grasp is that no one is planning on uprooting our entire society if we do not need to. It took a long time for the Earth to get where it is in the case of global warming. It will take a long time to fix it, so any suggestions to knee jerk action like you imply is foolish.

Only those on the defensive make grand leaps like you have done Tired. Try to think before responding next time. Heck, what I would like to see is you to try and respond to any questions that I have asked of you. It's fun to see you try and dodge them. You look more and more like Obama everyday.

Posted 198 days ago.

Kendall78

Let's see...you focus a lot on a place with little children.

You pull off another ad hominem attack and you still have answered no questions directed to you.

Posted 198 days ago.

Kendall78

Ignoring your fascination with places where little kids are, so it sounds like you admit that CO2 is bad. Otherwise, why would you care to try such a inept debate strategy?

Posted 198 days ago.
 
 
 
 

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