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50 minutes ago.
by Stillhere
harryanderson
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Thankfully, the anti-science propaganda campaign surrounding man-made climate change seems to have lost some of its effect.

Are you seeing storm clouds on the horizon? Two recent studies suggest that the latest anti-science campaign is following its forerunners--the propaganda campaigns attempting to refute science that tobacco causes cancer, that CFC's caused the hole in the ozone layer, and so on—into oblivion. Global warming denial seems to have climbed to a peak in 2010, and global warming acceptance is now climbing. This bodes well for rational public policy.

 
 

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Kendall78

"In say manmade global warming does not exist."

Have I ever asked you to prove something does not exist?

The answer is no btw. Let me spoonfeed this to you.

1. One side says that the current heating of the Earth is due to mankind in part and have offered up proof to that.

2. The opposition (you) says that the current heating is part of the natural cycle. However, no proof is given to back up this proposition.

See...no proving the negative, so there is no weaseling out of it. Can you provide proof to you belief or not?

Posted 106 days ago.

Kendall78

"If the only evidence for something's existence is a lack of evidence for it not existing.."

Oy vey...Tired, in no way did I imply that man made global warming relies on this.

You made a statement about today's increase in global heat is part of the natural cycle. There for, you should easily be able to show the similarities of today's heat increase with past events. You should be able to point out natural phenomenon that are the cause of the increased heat.

You haven't and frankly I don't think you can.

Posted 106 days ago.

mythravere

Now how about your next contrived controversy? Eh tiredofit?

Posted 106 days ago.

mythravere

And for the record I do not want to see any sort of carbon tax since I know it will used by certain greedy folks in the financial industry to make a hefty profit by speculating.

Posted 106 days ago.

mythravere

On a side note. BNSF railroad is experimenting with natural gas powered locomotives right now.

Whats interesting is it brings back into the railroad lexicon the use of the word tender. Since a tank car(tender) that provides the gas is behind the locomotive.

So things are changing.

Posted 106 days ago.

mythravere

I am going to put this here in all caps so my position is clear.

NOTHING CAN BE DONE IN MY OPINION TO STOP CLIMATE CHANGE NOW.

WE HAVE TO ADAPT TO THE CHANGES THAT COMES OUR WAY.

That means an all of the above approach to energy.

If we can use wind,hydro etc in certain areas. Then do it. Areas like ours that aren't really suited to them. Use natural gas or coal with carbon sequestration(provided its viable and safe)

But from an economic standpoint we are going to see a lot more gas fired power stations come online versus coal power.

Coal was supplanted as a means of fuel for the railroads when more economical diesel fueled locomotives came on the scene.

And so it will be with power generation.

Posted 106 days ago.

mythravere

How yea. Here recently was it not you who said that even though there IS warming man is not responsible for it?

But now you are saying there is no warming?

Consistency in position isn't your strong suit.

So which is it?

Posted 106 days ago.

mythravere

"It is you Larry and Shemp who claim man and co2 are causing cataclysmic warming which will forever change the world and make it a living he'll."

I never said that it would make life a living he11.

What no one knows is how it will affect weather patterns. We don't know how those will shift. Note I am talking about day to day and season to season weather.

You concrete block of a brain might get confused by that.

But a rising sea level. Yea. That will make things difficult for people. Especially people who live on the coasts or on low lying islands.

We'll see new challenges to how we live.

Thats what I am saying. Not the sensationalist bs that you project onto me.

Posted 106 days ago.

mythravere

"What a convienent way of saying "trust us, it may be cooler everywhere else but the deep ocean now there its getting warmer. Lol"

Global warming isn't about just the atmosphere.

But I guess you can't be bothered to understand that the land and oceans also absorb heat. In fact water absorbs way more heat than the air.

But who am I kidding huck yuck!

Its all a hoax right? Riiiigggghht!

Posted 106 days ago.

mythravere

"You want government to tax carbon."

Care to provide proof I support that idea.

Oh thats right you're not in the habit of articulating and detailing your position. With facts!

Posted 106 days ago.

mythravere

The case has been made. Now its your turn.

But I must say your position is the easier one.

All you have to do is sit back and deny everything thats been laid out before you.

All the while you hide behind this false idea that you don't have to prove anything you say.

How very cowardly of you.

But then again you say we are cowards. Even though in the past we done as you wished and offered proof.

Which you reject outright without a thought.

Posted 106 days ago.

mythravere

You not honestly seeking an understanding.

Posted 106 days ago.

mythravere

You say that about everything laid on the table.

Posted 106 days ago.

mythravere

You say man has no role in climate change.

In your eyes thats reality.

Good! Back it up with proof.

Posted 106 days ago.

mythravere

Why are you even asking for proof when you know full well there is nothing we can provide that will sway your opinion?

Its been provided countless times.

You don't want to consider it.

Posted 106 days ago.

mythravere

We've played this game of putting facts on the table.

You will discount anything we say.

So we are playing another game now.

Posted 106 days ago.

mythravere

If what you say is the truth then it is the fact that needs to supported by the burden of proof.

Posted 106 days ago.

mythravere

" The burden of proof is on the individual proposing existence, not the one questioning existence."

Ok. See previous posts in this here forum.

But you must know that you are proposing the existence of the fact that mans does not have a role in climate change so you are therefore responsible in proving the existence of what you say.

To you this fact is concrete and tangible therefore it exists and requires said proof.

Posted 106 days ago.

mythravere

Tiredofit. Do you old chap spray vinegar at chemtrails?

Because the excuses you put on the table for not believing this stuff is akin to doing just that.

Posted 106 days ago.

mythravere

Conversing with Tiredofit is like trying to talk sensibly with the chemtrail and 9-11 truther nuts.

There's no way to penetrate their circular logic.

They have what they believe and if anything contradicts it. They will find a way to discount the conflicting facts.

They see life through Funhouse Mirrors.

And what they see is filled with distortions .

Posted 106 days ago.
 
 
 
 

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