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41 days ago.
by slinky
harryanderson
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Thankfully, the anti-science propaganda campaign surrounding man-made climate change seems to have lost some of its effect.

Are you seeing storm clouds on the horizon? Two recent studies suggest that the latest anti-science campaign is following its forerunners--the propaganda campaigns attempting to refute science that tobacco causes cancer, that CFC's caused the hole in the ozone layer, and so on—into oblivion. Global warming denial seems to have climbed to a peak in 2010, and global warming acceptance is now climbing. This bodes well for rational public policy.

 
 

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harryanderson

Those who claim there has been no warming in 16 years either don't use elementary statistical analysis.

Politifact rated Patrick Moore’s statement that “the earth has not warmed in 17 years” and found it “mostly false.”

ww w.politifact.co m/punditfact/statements/2014/mar/17/patrick-moore/climate-change-skeptic-patrick-moore-says-earth-ha/

For at least 3 reasons, Tiredofit’s statement isn’t true. First, 1998 was an outlier year with a strong El Nino. In discussing trends, statisticians who want to be truthful don’t pick outliers for the baseline. Second, both 2005 and 2010 were warmer than 1998. Third, the first decade of the 20th century was the warmest on record.

Those who feel frustrated in arguments often employ pejoratives like “imbecile” and “short bus” and “fool.” Frankly, it reveals more about their characters than the characters of those whom they disparage.

Posted 760 days ago.

mythravere

"So you admit you don't have the first clue and no one can say what will happen yet you want action????"

Never admitted anything.

I don't want action. There's nothing we can do about it in my opinion except be flexible and adapt accordingly.

Posted 760 days ago.

RANDOM21

It's a nice day. Go out and enjoy it before the weather changes to rain, or snow, or not. Reduction of co2 will inherently cause an upward shift in the cost of energy across the spectrum. This increased cot will result in reduction of power used because people that are not subsidized by the government will use less. The poor folk won't change their usage as the taxpayer helps with their bills, the rich won't use less because they can afford to pay. But, once again, we in the middle will be squeezed by the increase and tough decisions we will have to make. Unless you are not rich or poor you don't have a dog in this hunt. Go out and breath some fresh air before your neighbor exhales and pollutes some more.

Posted 760 days ago.

mythravere

Two decades ago the northern ice cap was a lot more widespread.

So much so that no routes were being looked at as possible seasonal shipping routes for commerce.

So much so that neither the USA or Russia seen it as necessary to start laying claim to areas for resource extraction under the waters the normally would have had ice flows over it.

Yep no warming in two decades.

Then why is the ice thinning out and routes opening up?

Posted 760 days ago.

mythravere

Just so you can see it...AGAIN.

Posted 760 days ago.

mythravere

No one can say with certainty exactly how global warming will change the variables that give rise to our seasonal weather patterns."

Posted 760 days ago.

mythravere

No one can say with certainty exactly how global warming will change the variables that give rise to our seasonal weather patterns."

Posted 760 days ago.

mythravere

No one can say with certainty exactly how global warming will change the variables that give rise to our seasonal weather patterns."

Posted 760 days ago.

mythravere

No one can say with certainty exactly how global warming will change the variables that give rise to our seasonal weather patterns."

Posted 760 days ago.

mythravere

And you call me a liar.

Posted 760 days ago.

mythravere

So there thats how you skewed what I said.

Could it be in your advanced age I am sure you are. Be in any way affecting your cognitive ability?

I think so.

Posted 760 days ago.

mythravere

"No. You are wrong. No one can say with certainty exactly how global warming will change the variables that give rise to our seasonal weather patterns."

Thats what I wrote liar.

Posted 760 days ago.

mythravere

We are seeing its effects right now. WHAT EFFECTS NO HURRICANS NO TORNADOS RECORD COLD>?

Look at the drought out in California.

A lot of the water reservoirs are down to critical levels because less snow is falling the mountains.

A dependable yearly amount of flow of snowmelt going through the region is why those reservoirs were built in the first place.

The yearly snowfall that filled those reservoirs is as much anymore is it?

Why?

Posted 760 days ago.

mythravere

We know some of what will happen with that warming. YOU SAID NO ONE CAN SAY WITH CERTAINTY

I was talking about weather on a seasonal day by day basis.

Skewed that one.

Posted 760 days ago.

Thatsabsurd

Sorry Kendell the only way to quantify science is by math...Period.

Posted 760 days ago.

mythravere

Oh god you are ignorant and like to skew what I say.

Posted 760 days ago.

mythravere

We know what's causing the warming.

We know some of what will happen with that warming.

We are seeing its effects right now.

None of its good.

Posted 760 days ago.

mythravere

Tiredofit do you know what wind shear is?

Its one of the things that can make a hurricane not form.

If weather patterns change in such a way the wind shear becomes more likely in the areas where hurricanes form then we will see less hurricanes more than likely.

Thats the thing right there. Our weather patterns we see from season to season may not follow what we have historically seen in them.

Posted 760 days ago.

mythravere

No. You are wrong. No one can say with certainty exactly how global warming will change the variables that give rise to our seasonal weather patterns.

Posted 760 days ago.

mythravere

Also I am not scared. I am concerned.

I say let climate change happen.

That way when it does happen people like yourself will only exist in the history books.

Posted 760 days ago.
 
 
 
 

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