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12 hours ago.
by mythravere
harryanderson
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Thankfully, the anti-science propaganda campaign surrounding man-made climate change seems to have lost some of its effect.

Are you seeing storm clouds on the horizon? Two recent studies suggest that the latest anti-science campaign is following its forerunners--the propaganda campaigns attempting to refute science that tobacco causes cancer, that CFC's caused the hole in the ozone layer, and so on—into oblivion. Global warming denial seems to have climbed to a peak in 2010, and global warming acceptance is now climbing. This bodes well for rational public policy.

 
 

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Kendall78

Tired, you can appeal to authority all you wish, you can rely on propaganda and hyperbolic nonsense but when the day is done, YOU HAVE ZERO PROOF.

Posted 71 days ago.

Kendall78

"As the climate COOLS or stays Level"

1. It's not cooling.

2. If you think the status quo is a good thing then you are delusional.

If the murder rate of Parkersburg went up 10% every year for 2 decades and then just leveled off...would you say that is a good thing? I doubt you would.

So if the Earth is avergaing at a hotter rate than is did 2, 3, 5 or 10 decades ago...why do you think it's all ok?

Posted 71 days ago.

Kendall78

"There is NO testable or provable facts that show CO2 is causing the climate to warm"

Actually, CO2 is a greenhouse gas that has been shown to retain solar energy.

If you disagree, you may go about and show that CO2 has no effect on the climate.

Posted 71 days ago.

Kendall78

"NO WARMING IN 17 plus YEARS FACT"

Past 17 years hotter than the 17 before..FACT.

Actually, the Ocean temps have risen but for some reason that fact is ignored by people like you.

Posted 71 days ago.

Kendall78

I'm not talking about predictions of climate scientists or those without a college degree in anything.

I'm talking about testable and measureable facts of the here and now.

Posted 71 days ago.

They are not facts, they are illusions. Situations in the future are predictions, not facts.

Posted 71 days ago.

Kendall78

"about made up claims about"

So the facts mean nothing to you? You'll just dismiss them as made up because it doesn't fit in what you want to believe?

Posted 71 days ago.

The worthless debate has been over for a long time to me.

We may be blown to smithereens in the near future because of obama foreign policy dumbness. And we are supposed to worry about made up claims about the climate's eternally changing temperature in the far distant future?

Read the news and find out we have real problems and no leader to help wih them.

Posted 71 days ago.

Kendall78

Aww...diddums get mad? It's ok if you got cranky. Sleep it off ;)

Posted 72 days ago.

Kendall78

Very good Tired...you understand what "Bandwagon" means.

You are such a good little reader...oh yes you are. Good boy.

Posted 72 days ago.

Kendall78

And this disproves that man effects the global climate how?

If your intent was to show bandwagon mentality, might I suggest you research how deniers use the bandwagon style. They tend to use people's ignorance as a catalyst to get their bandwagon moving.

Posted 72 days ago.

Kendall78

And this disproves that man effects the global climate how?

Posted 72 days ago.

mythravere

Coal was on the decline before this push to reduce emissions was even thought of.

Know why?

There is only so much of it that can be mined. Simple as that.

Imagine the shock and outrage these war on coal acolytes would have had when one of the coal industry's biggest customers moved in mass away from coal use had they been around when it happened.

That industry would have been the railroads. Faced with an all around easier to use and more economical fuel the railroads abandoned steam power very quickly. Not all steam engines were powered by coal. Some were oil fired. And the maintenance on a steam locomotive was far more intensive.

But market forces caused the movement away from steam power for locomotives.

Market forces will also cause the movement away from coal to cheaper and more economical gas or even nuclear. Its happening right now.

Posted 97 days ago.

harryanderson

Here's the absurd argument Tiredofit wants us to accept: The world's largest oil companies "play ball" with the so-called global warming hoax.

I'm laughing so hard I can barely type.

Posted 97 days ago.

harryanderson

We all need to realize what this says. Despite the loud screams about a war on coal, the coal industry, and Central Appalachian coal in particular, is doomed by freemarket forces.

Posted 97 days ago.

harryanderson

Thanks for posting that opinion piece, Tiredofit. It makes a very important point we need to consider.

The author writes, "And coal? Here’s where the global warming regulatory crowd at EPA are doing all they can to help the Big Oil & Gas guys, whether they asked for it or not. Then again, the EPA probably isn’t the coal industry’s biggest problem anyway, and is only hastening its inevitable decline. A greater adversary resides in the free market form of that cheaper, cleaner and abundant natural gas."

Notice what it says: It says the EPA's main way of aiding the Oil and Gas industry is by its so-called war on coal. However, coal is in "inevitable decline" even without EPA regulations.

Posted 97 days ago.

harryanderson

There's four to draw to! They know what's happening.

And they've been pulling their funding from the Counter Climate Change Movement.

"Meanwhile the traceable cash flow from more traditional sources, such as Koch Industries and ExxonMobil, has disappeared."

ww w.scientificamerican.co m/article/dark-money-funds-climate-change-denial-effort/

Posted 97 days ago.

harryanderson

Shell says, "CO2 emissions must be reduced to avoid serious climate change."

ww w.shell.co m/global/environment-society/environment/climate-change.html

BP says the latest IPCC report "makes clear that limiting climate change will require substantial and sustained reductions of GHG emissions."

"The scale of this challenge is such that governments must act by setting a clear, stable and effective carbon policy framework."

ww w.bp.co m/en/global/corporate/sustainability/the-energy-future/climate-change.html

Exxon-Mobile, Chevron, Shell, and BP have all investigated the science and agree that we need to mitigate the risks.

Posted 97 days ago.

harryanderson

Some of the world's largest fossil fuel companies also recognize that GJG emissions are changing the climate.

"ExxonMobil believes that it is prudent to develop and implement strategies that address the risks to society associated with increasing GHG emissions."

h ttp://corporate.exxonmobil.c om/en/environment/climate-change/climate-policy

"At Chevron, we recognize and share the concerns of governments and the public about climate change. The use of fossil fuels to meet the world's energy needs is a contributor to an increase in greenhouse gases (GHGs)—mainly carbon dioxide (CO2 )—in the Earth's atmosphere."

w ww.chevron.c om/globalissues/climatechange/

Posted 97 days ago.

Kendall78

Here's the link if you are interested: ww w.ipsosglobaltrends.c om/environment.h tm l

Posted 100 days ago.
 
 
 
 

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