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27 minutes ago.
by Kunectdots
harryanderson
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Thankfully, the anti-science propaganda campaign surrounding man-made climate change seems to have lost some of its effect.

Are you seeing storm clouds on the horizon? Two recent studies suggest that the latest anti-science campaign is following its forerunners--the propaganda campaigns attempting to refute science that tobacco causes cancer, that CFC's caused the hole in the ozone layer, and so on—into oblivion. Global warming denial seems to have climbed to a peak in 2010, and global warming acceptance is now climbing. This bodes well for rational public policy.

 
 

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mythravere

Well in Al Gore's case he is kinda sorta a hypocrite.

For all he has said about the dangers of climate change and that we must shift ourselves off of fossil fuels his carbon footprint is rather large. And if he was serious about making the needed changes he'd lead by example.

There's ways for him to get around that could demonstrate low to no carbon use.

He could for one thing have his jet powered by carbon neutral jet fuels. And use the myriad of ways out there to reduce is living arrangements carbon footprint.

You know smaller more energy efficient home etc.

Posted 101 days ago.

JoeBlow

The point is being a hippocrite about global warming by over indulgence.

Posted 101 days ago.

Ohwiseone

Although he is a wealthy person as are most who are or were in public office , the rich do tend to fly where they want and can afford big homes and fancy cars . So whats the point ?

Posted 101 days ago.

Ohwiseone

So far Joe I haven't seen Al Gore on the billionaires list so just maybe you're stretching it a bit !

Posted 101 days ago.

JoeBlow

No prob Myth. I don't see any solution that would not have some kind of an enviromental affect, all I see is the government wanting to get rich from the problems. Al Gore making a billion dollars off this has no qualms about flying solo in a big jet to give speaches and living in a house that is much larger than needed.

Posted 101 days ago.

mythravere

Sorry my bad Joe. I was thinking of the nickel metal hydride batteries. Not lipo battery packs.

As an aside. The battery and its cost is the problem. I don't know why they can build cars with diesel generators in them. Think diesel locomotives.

Wait a minute I know. Too good of fuel milage for the oil proponents and the fact that it would still be using an oil product for the enviro minded people.

Posted 101 days ago.

harryanderson

Tiredofit wrote, "The use of fossil fuels... most likely will phase out for the most part."

I agree with that, and I've been preparing for it. I believe it's wise to prepare for changes when you think they're "most likely."

I believe in taking personal responsibility, so I don't wait for government to act when I know change will happen.

Posted 101 days ago.

Ohwiseone

The questions tiredbrain refuses to answer ! Where does Faux get their "research" ?????? Who funds that ????? Who's agenda are they following ????? And most of all Who's agenda are you following ????This is proof by your silence that your full of crap !

Posted 101 days ago.

Ohwiseone

"will lead to widespread climate change "Not maybe , not likely , but will !

Posted 101 days ago.

Ohwiseone

And tiredbrain quit asking for research that states that man is causing some part of global warming , YOU"VE GOT IT AND STILL DENY IT !!!

Posted 101 days ago.

Kendall78

"and I will not respond to it."

Except to say he won't respond to it..lol.

Posted 101 days ago.

Kendall78

"but they fall short of PROOF"

Please Tired, tell us what you would consider to be proof.

Posted 101 days ago.

JoeBlow

This is interesting. Wonder how that happened? Associated Press September 8, 2014

NAIROBI, Kenya — A snail once thought to have been among the first species to go extinct because of climate change has reappeared in the wild.The Aldabra banded snail, declared extinct seven years ago, was rediscovered on Aug. 23 in the Indian Ocean island nation of Seychelles. The mollusk, which is endemic to the Aldabra coral atoll — a UNESCO World Heritage Site — had not been seen on the islands since 1997, said the Seychelles Islands Foundation.Conservationists are celebrating the banded snail's reemergence.

Posted 101 days ago.

JoeBlow

This is what I got for EVS-Roll to buy a 24KwH Lithium-ION High-Voltage battery for a Fiat 500E which only gets 80 miles for a full charge and if you want it to recharge in over 24 hours, you need to spend another $1,000 for a high speed charges. From EVS-Roll " Li-Ion Recent History

Li-Ion battery packs are reported to cost from around $500 up to $900 USD per Kilowatt hour. On average a 24 kWh battery pack could cost you around $17,000 or so. Some reports suggest that Nissan has managed to manufacture battery packs for the Leaf for about $375 per kWh. That seems low in 2012.

Replacement (installed) cost for the 53 kWh Tesla Roadster batter pack runs around $36,000. That comes to around $679 per kWh.

Ford reports that its 23 kWh packs cost from $12,000 - $15,000: $600/kWh "

Posted 101 days ago.

mythravere

And low and behold we have capitalists to thank for some proof I am going to lay down for Tiredofit.

With the highly likelihood that the Arctic Ocean will ice free during the summer months in the future. Shipping companies are already planning routes through that area to CAPITALIZE on the shortcut it would provide shipping companies.

Its becoming increasingly open.

If you don't believe me. Look it up. So you can you the sources that suit you best. LOL!

Posted 101 days ago.

mythravere

Joe I don't know where you got that number but I think the batteries run around 3000 to 4000. No where near 15000.

Posted 101 days ago.

mythravere

"Just like Algore said the Antarctic ice shelf would be gone by 2014.. .........uh not"

This right here shows how utterly ignorant you are Tiredofit.

Thats not exactly what Al Gore said.

When he said that he was referring to the northern ice cap being ice free..in the summer..in as little as 7 years.

He didn't say it would be. He stated that the models were showing that this could come to place as SOON as it was stated.

It wasn't a for sure thing.

Posted 101 days ago.

JoeBlow

I'm not sure I would be willing to pay over $30,000 for an all electric care, and then replace the battery for over $15,000. It seems the battery is worth more than the car. I wonder what damage that battery does to the environment when it ends up in a land fill?

Posted 101 days ago.

Ohwiseone

"will lead to widespread climate change "Not maybe , not likely , but will !

Posted 101 days ago.

Ohwiseone

Heres what you've been asking for but don't want to adress !!! research that is not funded by our government ! ~~~~The dependence on fossil fuel energy sources since the industrial revolution has undoubtedly shaped economic prosperity for the developed world. However, an unfortunate by-product of fossil fuel combustion is the emission of carbon dioxide (CO2), an important greenhouse gas that is known to influence long-term climatic variations through its ability to absorb infra-red radiation.

Human emissions of CO2 have resulted in atmospheric levels higher than any period over the last 20 million years. The continued emission of CO2 will lead to widespread climate change related impacts. ~~Climate Change Research Centre (CCRC) UNSW Australia, Sydney NSW 2052 Australia

Posted 101 days ago.
 
 
 
 

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