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5 days ago.
by Stillhere
harryanderson
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Thankfully, the anti-science propaganda campaign surrounding man-made climate change seems to have lost some of its effect.

Are you seeing storm clouds on the horizon? Two recent studies suggest that the latest anti-science campaign is following its forerunners--the propaganda campaigns attempting to refute science that tobacco causes cancer, that CFC's caused the hole in the ozone layer, and so on—into oblivion. Global warming denial seems to have climbed to a peak in 2010, and global warming acceptance is now climbing. This bodes well for rational public policy.

 
 

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JoeBlow

When you say the last 20 years were hotter than the previous 20 years, couldn't the previous 20 years have been unusually cooler?

Posted 87 days ago.

mythravere

Like I said before. Anything we put on the table you'll just sweep it onto the floor as soon as its laid out and laugh and holler that its a hoax without considering any of it.

The games up. You've proven one thing.

You aren't interested in the truth!

Not one iota.

This isn't an issue of whether the facts are right or wrong for you.

You opinion was predetermined before this debate even began and it can not be swayed.

Posted 87 days ago.

mythravere

Proof has been offered and laid out in detail on the previous pages.

Its not that it's false..it's that you don't want to believe it.

Posted 87 days ago.

Kendall78

"If you cannot prove it is different then just admit it."

I have proved and many others have on here. Please reference the rest of this thread for the information.

As for the burden of proof...those that say global warming is in part effected by man has proven themselves to be true.

However, the other side of the argument (You) have made a claim it is a natural occurance and is not unique. This should be easy for you to prove if it is true.

Posted 87 days ago.

Kendall78

"I claim that there is nothing but a natural cycle just as there has always been"

So it should be easy to show this to be factually true for you then. I am certain there is lots of information you could cite to show this is true.

This is your chance Tired. If you can prove this is just a natural cycle and their is no deviation from the norm...then you will show man made global warming is false.

Good luck.

Posted 87 days ago.

Ohwiseone

Climate change - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

en.wikipedia. org/wiki/Climate_change

Posted 87 days ago.

Ohwiseone

Deny all you want but most say its there and its not going away !

Posted 87 days ago.

Ohwiseone

Nevertheless, there is a strong, credible body of evidence, based on multiple lines of research, documenting that climate is changing and that these changes are in large part caused by human activities. While much remains to be learned, the core phenomenon, scientific questions, and hypotheses have been examined thoroughly and have stood firm in the face of serious scientific debate and careful evaluation of alternative explanations.”

— United States National Research Council, Advancing the Science of Climate Change

Posted 87 days ago.

Ohwiseone

76 out of 79 climatologists who "listed climate science as their area of expertise and who also have published more than 50% of their recent peer-reviewed papers on the subject of climate change" believe that mean global temperatures have risen compared to pre-1800s levels, and 75 out of 77 believe that human activity is a significant factor in changing mean global temperatures.

Posted 87 days ago.

Kendall78

To recap, Tired claims that the reason for the current heating of the Earth is that it's part of the natural cycle of the planet.

He offers no facts to support this claim in any way. This is counter the notion that mankind is effecting the planet, which is funny since Tired has said that mankind can effect the Ozone Layer.

Posted 87 days ago.

Kendall78

Of course you don't have to prove that Tired, people can observe the illusion of the Sun setting everyday.

But, one cannot observe the positive statement you made saying that the current heating cycle of the Earth is like the past.

Now you can either provide proof or admit you are unable.

Posted 87 days ago.

Kendall78

I am sorry you do not like it that when you make a positive claim that you should back it up.

So under the circumstances, you are unable to prove that the current cycle is anything like the past cycles? Therefor the current cycle could be way off kilter from the norm for all YOU know.

Posted 87 days ago.

Kendall78

You posted that mankind effects the Ozone layer and therefor effects the way the planet absorbs heat.

Were you lying Tired or do you believe that?

Posted 87 days ago.

Kendall78

"Because Algore says is NOT proof just saying"

I agree. Why mention that again?

Posted 87 days ago.

Kendall78

"Logic would dictate if we had periods of warming and cooling throughout the earths history it would up to you to PROVE HOW ITS DIFFERENT."

That's where you would be wrong. You are making a positive claim that the past cycle are the same as now. Prove that thye are..if you can. I doubt you are able to or even will try.

Posted 87 days ago.

Kendall78

"The fact that ice a mile thick used to lay atop Ohio does not phase them."

No one has denied that the Earth goes through cycles. Heck, the entire planet was covered in ice at one time.

But what does any of those time periods have to do with the here and now Tired...offer up some proof.

Posted 87 days ago.

Kendall78

And proof was given many times to you. Denying it doesn't make that fact disappear even though you wish it would.

This is such a fun game. Tired tries the old "tell a lie enough" ploy and all we need to do is refer back to all the past pages with the very evidence he denies exist.

It's also cute how he ignores that my last statement was factual. If he believed it wasn't, it would be easy to prove it wrong.

Posted 87 days ago.

Kendall78

"So the lack of warming.."

What lack of warming? The last 20 years are hotter than the previous 20 years.

Posted 87 days ago.

Kendall78

Sure there is, you just won't accept them.

It's a tragedy really how willfully ignorant you are.

“No matter how busy you may think you are, you must find time for reading, or surrender yourself to self-chosen ignorance.” ? Atwood H. Townsend

Guess you are "France" of this forum eh Tired?

Posted 87 days ago.

Kendall78

"Still waiting for..."

Guess you will be waiting as long as it takes you to go back over the pages of this forum.

Posted 87 days ago.
 
 
 
 

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