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122 days ago.
by slinky
harryanderson
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Thankfully, the anti-science propaganda campaign surrounding man-made climate change seems to have lost some of its effect.

Are you seeing storm clouds on the horizon? Two recent studies suggest that the latest anti-science campaign is following its forerunners--the propaganda campaigns attempting to refute science that tobacco causes cancer, that CFC's caused the hole in the ozone layer, and so on—into oblivion. Global warming denial seems to have climbed to a peak in 2010, and global warming acceptance is now climbing. This bodes well for rational public policy.

 
 

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harryanderson

Adios until next time.

Posted 836 days ago.

harryanderson

Who really believes John Beale, who defrauded the government for years by posing as a CIA agent? Not me.

But even if we do believe him, we should check out the whole story instead of cherry picking like Tired.

Posted 836 days ago.

harryanderson

Tiredofit has again attempted to deceive us. He tries to link John Beale's testimony as "a smoking gun" that "laid bare the administration's end goal."

But Tired would rather you didn't hear the whole story.

According to a Fox News article on Jan. 22 titled "Ex-WPA official told lawmakers of project to 'modify the DNA of capitalism,'"

Beale also "claimed the project began under the George W Bush administration" and "the project was eventually 'scrapped.'" So Bush started it and Obama ended it, according to Fox.

Beware of deceptive reporting.

Posted 836 days ago.

Kendall78

"The truth is that CO2 is a beneficial trace gas"

Not one person has questioned the benefits of CO2 in the natural environment. The question is when it's increased through unnatural sources.

"that the idea of it playing any significant role in determining our climate is simply silly."

Why? You have evidence that the mass increase has been actually beneficial instead of bad?

"CO2 comprises less than half of 0.1% of our atmosphere, and only 4% of it comes from human activity."

I love it when you copy/paste Tired, the writing is always better than your normal off the cuff style. If anyone is interested, you can read the entire thing here: klimabedrag.dk/article/full/the-global-warming-hoax-how-soon-we-forget

Posted 836 days ago.

moderation

Melted ice and snow alters ocean temperatures by displacing warmer water.

Posted 836 days ago.

Kendall78

I would also suggest when you research that you don't trust it if the writing is by author "cgfi".

It would be more responsible to at least cite actual scientists that write articles than opinion pieces.

Posted 836 days ago.

Kendall78

You are more than welcome to cite your information and also to give full information. Did you info say why there was a cooling at that time you referenced?

Most momentas of cooling was surface temps mostly and due to major events like the volcanic eruptions in the Pacific.

Posted 836 days ago.

Kendall78

Using ARGO;

"A new analysis of long-term ocean warming trends has discovered that deep ocean waters below 700 meters (2,300 feet) have heated up unexpectedly since the year 2000. The research was published on May 10, 2013 in the journal." (Geophysical Research Letters)

"The ocean plays a critical role in absorbing extra atmospheric heat caused by increasing greenhouse gas emissions. Scientists estimate that the ocean has absorbed approximately 90% of the total heat that has been added to the climate system over the past 50 years. Heat that is not absorbed by the ocean contributes to melting ice and warming land and air temperatures." (earthsky.o r g)

Posted 836 days ago.

Kendall78

As for ARGO, Oceanographer Dean Roemmich has used the info from ARGO and other past measurements to confirm that the oceans have been getting warming in the last century.

Posted 836 days ago.

Kendall78

"Phil Klotzbach, who heads the CSU team, said the lower forecast.."

Soooo, you prop up forcasts when they serve you but will condemn forcasting when they are proven incorrect right?

Would it surprise you that Dr. Klotzbach admitted that the forcasts for the 2013 hurricane season "was probably our worst forecast in 30 years of doing it".

So Tired, why do you trust this guy when he has admitted to being so wrong before? Is it because he is saying what you want to hear? Shame on you.

Posted 836 days ago.

Kendall78

Glad your copy/pasting skills are up to junior high standards.

"Phil Klotzbach, who heads the CSU team"

Do you even know what CSU is? As I stated before, you are a hypocrite Tired. You will condemn one group because of their connections to the govt but ignore it when it suits you.

"said the lower forecast was based on cooler waters in the tropical Atlantic"

You do realize that the tropical Atlantic isn't even the whole Atlantic Ocean right? What does this have to do with the all the Earth's Oceans being warmer than average?

I am quite certain he is fully aware that the oceans as a whole are warming. It's about time you become aware of it yourself dear boy.

Posted 836 days ago.

Kendall78

"The 2014 Atlantic hurricane season is expected to be quieter than normal"

And this is evidence of what Tired? You are not trying to say this is evidence of something not happening are you?

Posted 836 days ago.

mythravere

"That one got two sets of panties in a wad, but was hoping for three, oh well."

I've been thinking that trolling and stirring the pot is your game.

Then I thought well maybe not. I mean why go to the trouble to argue at length on this issue.

If trolling and stirring things up means so much to you that you would spend as much time as you have on doing that well all I gotta say is....thanks pal.

I guess Kendal Harry and I have ourselves a ginuine internet fan club.

Because apparently we're worth your time.

Posted 836 days ago.

Kendall78

@Tired- why is it you don't trust Obama's flunkies but you will trust other govt flunkies like Kish?

To be fair, I don't know much about the man beyond what his transcripts say but he obviously is involved with the govt, so why does his opinion count when other ppl involved in the govt doesn't? Is it only because he says what you like to hear? Doesn't that make you a hypocrite?

Posted 836 days ago.

mythravere

And this religious freedom bent conservatives are on.

Hello you being granted total religious freedom will open this country up for the Muslims to instill Sharia law upon this land.

Because we would be granting religious freedom for all right? Or would that be just for the Christians?

LOL!

Posted 836 days ago.

mythravere

And something else thats hilarious is that I've noticed that Republicans are putting or want to put in place laws that could turn around and bite them in the rear end.

Like the dropping of political donation limits for individuals. Sure that MIGHT help them but could just as well mean they get outspent in the next election by a huge margin.

Because I hate to point out a failing in your and your kids anti socialist logic but playing with the idea that you are right and Obama is a socialist marxist whatever...whats going to stop socialists from "over there" from sending money to their Amerikan "comrades" seeing the the socialist left is kept in power?

Shot...yourselves...in..the..foot! Is what you have done!

Posted 836 days ago.

Kendall78

@Tired- why is it you don't trust Obama's flunkies but you will trust other govt flunkies like Kish?

To be fair, I don't know much about the man beyond what his transcripts say but he obviously is involved with the govt, so why does his opinion count when other ppl involved in the govt doesn't? Is it only because he says what you like to hear? Doesn't that make you a hypocrite?

Posted 836 days ago.

mythravere

And all of this being said and believed by Tiredofit in complete disregard for the simple fact that capitalism is running free.

We got financial institutions****near breaking the back of the economy.

There is so many examples of capitalism being alive and well. With companies doing a lot business and making their CEO's richer and richer.

Thats the free market at work Tiredofit.

And what makes this hilarious is that Obama has been a key ally to all of them.

So that pretty much sinks what you posted.

Obama is helping rig the system even more for the powers that be.

And those powers that be...well they be capitalists.

Posted 836 days ago.

mythravere

" Put another way, the entire "Global Warming" crusade has been a complete lie from the start -- to attack the free market system"

Yep!! LOL! The recession of glaciers all across the world,the acidification of the oceans,the loss of polar sea ice in the north, plant and animal species migrating north etc.

Yea boy that was all done to help make the case that man is causing climate change.

But these phenomenon that are happening. And increasingly so in the last 17 years are not the result of a warming earth. Because Tiredofit has pointed out that there is no warming.

Well guess what? All of these phenomenon that are happening because of the world "NOT" warming..lol..are being CAUSED by MAN to gain more power and control.

So there you have it. Man is causing changes in our climate just not with Co2.

But with political power!

Posted 836 days ago.

mythravere

Turner Radio Network????????

WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

So you stumbled upon the website that is associated with a known racist?

That speaks volumes about you and where your information comes from.

Posted 836 days ago.
 
 
 
 

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