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6 days ago.
by mythravere
harryanderson
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Thankfully, the anti-science propaganda campaign surrounding man-made climate change seems to have lost some of its effect.

Are you seeing storm clouds on the horizon? Two recent studies suggest that the latest anti-science campaign is following its forerunners--the propaganda campaigns attempting to refute science that tobacco causes cancer, that CFC's caused the hole in the ozone layer, and so on—into oblivion. Global warming denial seems to have climbed to a peak in 2010, and global warming acceptance is now climbing. This bodes well for rational public policy.

 
 

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mythravere

"You have no proof that man is causing the climate to change, none zero zip"

So carbon dioxide is not a heat trapping gas?

Posted 215 days ago.

mythravere

OMG! Ha! You just proved all my points about you!

Here's a point I would like you to explain where its is wrong.

Given the current population of humans and the way in which they consume energy....can it not be said that mankind has made itself into a force of nature?

Posted 215 days ago.

Tiredofit

And there is a Socialist movement in this country but you refuse to see that as well. You set up your strawman RIGHT WING and dismiss any mention. Take a look if you dare, at what National and International Socialist, organizations are saying, it mirrors what the Democrats with to do in many ways. SOCIAL JUSTICE, WAGE DISPARITY, are being words being tossed around even now on Meet the Press. I doubt you will look, it requires a lot more intellect to piece the whole thing together to see what it REALLY is about, you prefer to just take what is spoon fed to you.

Posted 215 days ago.

Tiredofit

You have no proof that man is causing the climate to change, none zero zip. That is the TRUTH you will not acknowledge. You say OMG we are dumping tons of carbon in the air it MUST do something, yet you cannot connect the two, rather you take a leap of faith that one causes the other. I can hear you typing your little LOL and bwhaaas even as it type. The only PROOF you have is a small group of people whos very living depends on there being a crisis. I can show you that the world has heating and cooling cycles and you will talk about a carbon cycle. Harry will act as though he is all about science but will tell you women come from a rib from a man? Fraud indeed

Posted 215 days ago.

Tiredofit

It is not you I debate, Myth, you just parrot others. You don't understand what you are even saying.

Posted 215 days ago.

mythravere

If you are honestly on here to debate these issues then you would honestly answer questions. You would honestly point out why you think I am wrong. You would honestly take the points I make and show me where they are wrong.

You will not do that tiredofit!

You also will not look at what we are saying and acknowledge the truth in what we say.

That being said all you have at stake in this debate is throw bombs and seek to deflect the discussion from scientific research by stoking political fears.

You are firmly a part of the people that Harry mentioned.

"They want us to view the issue as a struggle between opposing ideological camps."

Posted 215 days ago.

mythravere

Also for the record. Saying man has "control" over the world climate is a loaded way of defining what is going on.

Control denotes the ability to affect outcomes in either direction.

Man does not have control of the climate.

Taking billions of tons of carbon from the ground..using it..then depositing that carbon into the atmosphere has an effect.

Its is the cumulative effect of mankind going about its business that is changing the climate.

Why is that so hard to understand?

Or do you understand and are just in the business of fear mongering about a socialist agenda that is constantly spewed about in rightwing circles?

Is it the drama of "taking your country back from the evil socialist left" that forms your opinions?

It must be!

Posted 215 days ago.

mythravere

Here we go again! LOL!

Lets see you put out your "reasoning" on the issue of climate change. Absolutely nothing you say sticks..it gets thwarted with REASON and....jeepers creepers.

Hey Harry you're a fraud!

What a laughable deflection.

Posted 215 days ago.

Tiredofit

You believe the earth was created by God in 6 days, yet think man has control over the very clImate. You call those who are skeptical anti science. What a fraud

Posted 216 days ago.

Tiredofit

Our Wv republican scientist, harry the fraud

Posted 216 days ago.

Tiredofit

The only fear presented here is you claiming the world will be in dire straights if we don't give our liberties and money tom government. You are such a fraud

Posted 216 days ago.

Tiredofit

Yeah harry you fraud, much like you mock science with you belief about the origins of the earth itself.

Posted 216 days ago.

harryanderson

Tiredofit writes,

“The two are inseparable as it IS a political agenada, not a scientific discussion.”

Tiredofit’s statement accurately describes the Counter Climate Change Movement’s campaign to belittle science. They seek to deflect the discussion from scientific research by stoking political fears.

They don’t want us to view the issue like the chairman of Exxon-Mobile views it—as “an engineering problem with an engineering solution.” They want us to view the issue as a struggle between opposing ideological camps.

And this explains many of the responses we see here. Posters disparage the science and engineering. They won’t even look at the scientific evidence. Instead, they want us to adopt their own paranoid fears.

Tiredofit admits that he sees it as a political problem. That’s why he discredits the science.

It’s not a political problem. It’s an engineering problem with an engineering solution.

Posted 216 days ago.

Kendall78

Copy/Pasting titles is not evidence.

By Common Sense

Posted 217 days ago.

Kendall78

"There is no proof that man has any such influence over climate."

Why do you think that? Why do you think that the dominant species on the planet that dumps tons of chemicals in the air, able to effect the ecosystem of the entire ocean and create the power of a star by splitting the atom has no effect upon the climate?

Posted 217 days ago.

mythravere

Our planet has a carbon cycle. Only thing is we are putting more into the system than what the system can take out.

That has consequences.

The experiment on the Bill Nye video simply shows what all the carbon can do once it is in the atmosphere.

I would really like to hear why that experiment is wrong in what it shows.

Am I to believe that if I performed that experiment something totally different would happen? Am I to believe that no difference in the temperature between the two jars would be observed?

If that is true either explain or point me in the direction of the information that informed you of the "real" nature of that experiment.

Posted 217 days ago.

Kendall78

"Did you notice it was a very low year for tornadoes this year?"

And how is that evidence that climate change isn't occurring? Climate is more than weather patterns in the middle of the US.

"And what had your imbecile scientists predicted?"

I have no scientists...imbicile or otherwise.

Posted 217 days ago.

mythravere

You know if one goes back and digs into the history of this area and the areas like it that produce coal.

Take a long hard look in particular at the railroads the built their empires by hauling coal.

For a very long time there have been mile long trains pulling coal out of just our mountains.

There are pictures of the coal docks in Roanoke Virginia with storage yards filled to the gills with full coal hoppers.

The carbon content of coal runs from 60+ to 91.5% in the case of Anthracite.

Once used all that carbon goes into the atmosphere where it for the most part stays.

That is a sh!t ton of carbon...just from coal!

It doesn't take an intelligent person to figure out dropping an egg with crack it.

Pulling all of that carbon out the ground and putting it into the atmosphere has consequences.

Posted 217 days ago.

mythravere

Just as I expected! Won't even answer a simple question.

Posted 217 days ago.

Tiredofit

When every major socialist marxiist group starts pushing it, I know what it is

Posted 217 days ago.
 
 
 
 

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