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11 minutes ago.
by Stillhere
harryanderson
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Thankfully, the anti-science propaganda campaign surrounding man-made climate change seems to have lost some of its effect.

Are you seeing storm clouds on the horizon? Two recent studies suggest that the latest anti-science campaign is following its forerunners--the propaganda campaigns attempting to refute science that tobacco causes cancer, that CFC's caused the hole in the ozone layer, and so on—into oblivion. Global warming denial seems to have climbed to a peak in 2010, and global warming acceptance is now climbing. This bodes well for rational public policy.

 
 

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mythravere

But then yet agains we have another problem.

In the past he has stated that even though there is warming man isn't responsible for it.

But now he is stating that there is no warming.

We know the planet is warming. There just is not denying that.

But these inconsistencies are interesting. And so is his refusal to back up his assertions.

Either he is being contrary. Or he has no facts with which to back up his assertions.

Posted 101 days ago.

mythravere

His assertion being positive. Meaning they have facts to back them up.

Our assertion being negative. Meaning not the truth therefore lacking in the ability to be proven as true.

Edited for clarity

Posted 101 days ago.

mythravere

But then it gets even better. You know Tiredofit says that we are wrong and that he is right.

His facts being positive. Meaning they have facts to back them up.

Our facts being negative. Meaning not the truth therefore lacking in the ability to be proven as true.

Now one would assume Tiredofit is interested in "winning" this debate. Furthermore one would assume that since his position is the true one it'd be very easy to prove his position.

All he has to do is prove that he is right.

Which is to show why all the warming can be blamed on natural causes.

But for some reason he won't do that.

Hmmm?

Posted 101 days ago.

mythravere

Aaah man you gotta love it. For months on end we repeatedly laid proof after proof on the table.

Of course Tiredofit it rejected all of it.

Now that we have figured out that he will reject any proof we put on the table. We stop providing it because you know lesson learned.

But now Tiredofit is asking for proof(that we already provided)and making it looks as if we dont have anything to show as proof. Or that we are refusing to show proof.

And this schmuck says he's interested in honest debate?

LOL!

Posted 101 days ago.

Kendall78

"I don't want to take your 100 bucks"

Oh there is very little chance of that. You won't go out to conduct even a simple chat with a real person.

Posted 102 days ago.

Kendall78

"PROOF that mans production of co2 is warming the planet SIMPLE"

It is that simple. Odd how you don't understand it. Guess you are less than simple ;)

Posted 102 days ago.

Ohwiseone

You just keep on telling yourself that !!!LOLOL! I've already shown you non-biased research, so there is the proof you've been crying about ! Now you tell us all whose research are you citing or is it more of your imaginary crap again !

Posted 102 days ago.

Ohwiseone

The continued emission of CO2 will lead to widespread climate change related impacts.

Posted 102 days ago.

Ohwiseone

All I advocate is there IS research that says man has and will have a role in climate change !

Posted 102 days ago.

Ohwiseone

Not better , just smart enough to not get caught in a lie !

Posted 102 days ago.

Ohwiseone

research that is not funded by our government ! ~~~~The dependence on fossil fuel energy sources since the industrial revolution has undoubtedly shaped economic prosperity for the developed world. However, an unfortunate by-product of fossil fuel combustion is the emission of carbon dioxide (CO2), an important greenhouse gas that is known to influence long-term climatic variations through its ability to absorb infra-red radiation.

Human emissions of CO2 have resulted in atmospheric levels higher than any period over the last 20 million years. The continued emission of CO2 will lead to widespread climate change related impacts. ~~Climate Change Research Centre (CCRC) UNSW Australia, Sydney NSW 2052 Australia

Posted 102 days ago.

Kendall78

You kep saying I am making excuses but I have asked many many times for your definition of what you will consider "proof".

When you give that definition, then I am certain it will be provided to you. As long as what you call proof is reasonable.

So Tired...will you please tell us what you would consider proof? Or will you deflect, call people names or deny deny deny anything people will show you?

Posted 102 days ago.

Kendall78

"I KNOW there is no proof in there and so do you."

That would be a lie. There is no proof you will accept is more accurate.

Posted 102 days ago.

Kendall78

Oh..if it were possible...I would love to do a contest in geography against you.

But alas, we know you won't come out of your momma's basement any time soon.

Oh the ego...I make an error in where Europe begins in relationship to Crimea and Tired thinks he is natrually better in general. He wasn't even thinking of Crimea when he made his Europe comment.

I would bet $100 that he didn't even know what the Bosphprus Straits were when I mentioned them earlier.

You are a card Tired. Now let's get back on topic. You can dwell on Crimea back in the other forum.

Posted 102 days ago.

Kendall78

"lol that made NO sense."

Why?

Posted 102 days ago.

Kendall78

And please keep checking back Tired...it's a fun game getting you all tightly wound up :)

There is tons of pages showing that we have offered facts. Sadly for you, I don't think there is one page worth of facts from your side of the argument.

Posted 102 days ago.

Kendall78

"Man has nothing to do with changing the climate NEGATIVE ASSERTION.."

And I have never asked you to prove this now have I?

I have asked you to prove that the current change in global temperature is natural as you have claimed but yet you cower from it.

I believe it's because you know there is something not natural about it but won't admit when you are wrong.

Posted 102 days ago.

Kendall78

You ahve hundreds of pages worth of information where people have supplied you with facts.

In chosing to ignore them for whatever reason you might have, you have only shown that you are inept in mature intellectual conversations.

Posted 102 days ago.

Kendall78

"I will remind you that a negative cannot be proven"

I have never asked you to prove one.

I have asked many times to prove what you actually think is going on with climate change and yet you always fall back to the way you dealt with problems in your youth and call people names.

Posted 102 days ago.

Kendall78

"Those of you who advocate a change in our energy policy are those that must make the case for it."

Oh, I see you dropped "radical" from your statement. That was wise of you since it made absolutely no sense when you said it before.

The case was made and backed up with evidence. That's why the energy policy is changing in a steady and responsible pace.

It's funny that the deniers lie to say that the climate change is natural as it is a good thing, but then seem almost frantic when people want to try and get the atmosphere back to a more natural state.

"a smart arsed punk"

Ah..the childish insult. Wouldn't be a night of Tired's ranting without one.

Posted 102 days ago.
 
 
 
 

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