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33 minutes ago.
by harryanderson
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Thankfully, the anti-science propaganda campaign surrounding man-made climate change seems to have lost some of its effect.

Are you seeing storm clouds on the horizon? Two recent studies suggest that the latest anti-science campaign is following its forerunners--the propaganda campaigns attempting to refute science that tobacco causes cancer, that CFC's caused the hole in the ozone layer, and so on—into oblivion. Global warming denial seems to have climbed to a peak in 2010, and global warming acceptance is now climbing. This bodes well for rational public policy.

 
 

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Kendall78

"No warming in nearly two decades despite CO2 levels rising, NO cause and effect"

I'm sorry to tell you this Tired but no one has said that CO2

Posted 101 days ago.

mythravere

Whew nearly missed this one.

" There is a small group of suppsosed scientist that pretend to speak for all fo science "

Um sorry but the profession of a scientist is broken up into a lot of different specialized and focused groupings dedicated to a myriad of topics.

I don't think climate scientists are presuming to be speaking for all scientists just the subject they specialize in.

Besides why distrust climate scientists but yet trust astronomers(the scientists that study planets,solar systems,stars etc)?

Oh silly me I know. Climate scientists aren't supportive of the positions you hold.More importantly they are in conflict with your parties politicians seeing as how the vast majority of conservative politicians have a stake in carbon based energy which is what is causing climate change according to climate scientists.

The astronomers I guess pose no threat to the oil barons.

Posted 102 days ago.

mythravere

Soooooooooooooooo?

Which is it? Is the earth truthfully not warming or is the earth warming due to the influence of the sun?

Now this is where you need to put on your good debater pants and deliver unto me the information that I am seeking to clarify my understanding of your position.

Posted 102 days ago.

mythravere

Going further with that logic we come to this gem.

There's been no warming. OK!

But yet the earth has been for awhile now moving out of an ice age(an interglacial period if you will)which you agree with.

For that to happen there has to be warming. Which you said isn't happening. I mean its well documented the recession of glaciers this past century so we know the earth is warming.

Either you are stupid or you are a troll.

I'm hoping you're stupid. Because if you are spending this much time just trolling with this much inconsistent consistency then you must have a supremely boring life.

Posted 102 days ago.

mythravere

Ok there has been no warming on this planet? But you then say other planets of been shown to be warming in the recent past.

But didn't you say that the reason behind the other planets warming was due to the sun ergo thats the reason the Earth is warming? Which you just said wasn't happening.

I am pretty sure you did.

LOL!

Posted 102 days ago.

mythravere

"Yeah myth I am stupid but can perform differential calculus and any physics problem you wish."

Its good that you can do that. But it does beg the question as to why you are saying the things that you are about mans role in climate change when have the knowledge that will show you that man can indeed causes changes in the climate.

So in other words the only reason you take the position that you do is because mans role in climate change goes against some of your close held beliefs.

Its not the facts that are wrong..its that you refuse to admit they are right.

Posted 102 days ago.

mythravere

"All your silly boyish keyboard heroics"

I do believe this is a case of projection right there.

Sorry Tiredofit but it aint we who be acting like a child.

Posted 102 days ago.

mythravere

Oh and Tiredofit for one to participate in a decent debate(you lamented the fact that there is no decent debate on this site)when one party requests information or clarification from the other party if the party that has something requested of it and is truthfully interested in decent debate then the honest thing to do is to provide that information.

Failing to do so shows pretty well that having a decent debate isn't on your agenda.

Posted 102 days ago.

mythravere

Tiredofit just keeps giving me more and more proof that his only point in this "debate" is that of a troll.

At least I hope thats what your angle is. Otherwise you are horrendously stupid and ignorant...willfully so at that.

Posted 102 days ago.

Kendall78

Typical blabber from Tired. Maybe he will actually defend or support one of his inane theories.

Posted 103 days ago.

Kendall78

I have made no false assumptions. After you first defend your position on how Earth's climate is comparable to Mars and Pluto...you can cite where I made any.

Otherwise, you are just typing irrelevant nonsense..again.

Posted 104 days ago.

Kendall78

"would reject inconvenient information"

Perhaps you could cite where I have rejected any information. I bet you can't. ;)

I have acknowledged that there is data. Unlike some people I have also acknowledged that the data is old, sparse and lacking relevance to what is happening on Earth.

Perhaps instead of creating false assumptions about others, you could tell us why you think that the data about Mars and Pluto should be trusted but the data gathered about Earth, from Earth, cannot be trusted?

Posted 104 days ago.

Kendall78

And of course it is baffling why a person doesn't believe in the data NASA and govt scientists give about Earth's climate while accepting fragmentary data about Mars or Pluto.

Posted 104 days ago.

Kendall78

Ignoring Tired's attempts at humor and not intellect, here is why it is foolish to try to compare Earth with Mars or Pluto. Tired is more than allowed to participate when his maturity sets in.

1. Earth has oceans where neither Mars or Pluto does not. It's painfully obvious that oceans does effect how our planet obsorbs heat.

2. Earth recieves more of the Sun's energy than Mars or Pluto.

3. The knoweldge of about Earth's climate is vast, while we know so little if virually nothing about Mars and Pluto.

Posted 104 days ago.

Kendall78

You poor simpleton, you won't answer because you know comparing our planet with Mars and dwarf planet Pluto is foolish and stupid.

Then you try to deflect with your attempts at some out of date left handed insult.

It all comes down to the fact you are a disingenuous and intellectually inept person. You'll ignore and insult Govt agencies and scientists when they say things you do not like but when they give you even a inkling of something you like...then you jump on board the band wagon whooping and hollering like a hillbilly.

And before you cry and whine about me insulting you or whatever, I'm not at all. Everything I have described you as is accurate to how you have portrayed yourself on here. So please don't play the wounded troll...you are not very good at it.

Posted 104 days ago.

Kendall78

Good to hear that you can keep up, then it won't be a bother for you to answer why you think the Earth and its climate is comparable to Mars and Pluto.

And why do you trust the govt to tell you what the climate is on Mars and Pluto but not on this planet?

Now show us you understand.

Posted 104 days ago.

Kendall78

Tired...were the questions I asked too complex for you? I could simplify them if you need it.

Posted 104 days ago.

mythravere

But whats really to be expected. The rightwing movement has taken the collective stupid pill.

The news is just loaded with righties getting caught in blatant lies and the peddling of falsehoods for their own gain.

Look at the nutter making the statement about the Earth and Mars having the same exact temperature.

You'll say any dang thing to get your way.

Posted 104 days ago.

mythravere

But the kicker is this. By trying to show you the truth I may be doing more harm than good.

Because for some reason you and people like you tend to dig in when faced with facts that are contradictory to what you WANT to believe.

You don't take the new information and use it to inform and correct your beliefs.

It just reinforces your false beliefs.

Posted 104 days ago.

mythravere

I dont think its this issue as much as the fact that I get a huge kick out arguing with you low information types.

Its rather fun and entertaining.

Its like arguing with chemtrailers or other conspiracy loving folks.

Its just hilarious the lengths you guys will go in explaining away something that is in conflict with the world views you hold.

A black man becomes president? Well its a marxist,socialist,communist conspiracy to destroy this nation. And all the other make believe crap you guys cook up to solidify your world view.

Posted 104 days ago.
 
 
 
 

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