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18 minutes ago.
by mythravere
harryanderson
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Thankfully, the anti-science propaganda campaign surrounding man-made climate change seems to have lost some of its effect.

Are you seeing storm clouds on the horizon? Two recent studies suggest that the latest anti-science campaign is following its forerunners--the propaganda campaigns attempting to refute science that tobacco causes cancer, that CFC's caused the hole in the ozone layer, and so on—into oblivion. Global warming denial seems to have climbed to a peak in 2010, and global warming acceptance is now climbing. This bodes well for rational public policy.

 
 

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harryanderson

If you mean that it's too easy for you to run away from the issue at hand, I agree.

Yes or no. Is Co2 a greenhouse gas?

Posted 3 days ago.

Tiredofit

Too easy

Posted 3 days ago.

harryanderson

But I didn't ask for evidence. You did. Let's agree on the basic science first, then we'll proceed to the subtleties.

Posted 3 days ago.

Tiredofit

What's the matter Harry it's the very source you cited

Posted 3 days ago.

Tiredofit

Lol Harry your source is changing the subject lol

Posted 3 days ago.

Tiredofit

I am using the SAME source

Posted 3 days ago.

Tiredofit

Their excuse for the absence of warming over the past 17 years is that the heat is hiding in the deep ocean.  However, this is simply an admission that the models fail to simulate the exchanges of heat between the surface layers and the deeper oceans.  However, it is this heat transport that plays a major role in natural internal variability of climate, and the IPCC assertions that observed warming can be attributed to man depend crucially on their assertion that these models accurately simulate natural internal variability.  Thus, they now, somewhat obscurely, admit that their crucial assumption was totally unjustified.

Posted 3 days ago.

harryanderson

You asked me to present evidence, and I did. Stop trying to change the subject.

Posted 3 days ago.

mythravere

" However, it is this heat transport that plays a major role in natural internal variability of climate, and the IPCC assertions that observed warming can be attributed to man depend crucially on their assertion that these models accurately simulate natural internal variability."

The thing about these models is that I get the sense that its hard to predict in real time what the climate is going to do in the near term.

We've already seen them get this wrong with hurricane prediction.

Posted 3 days ago.

Tiredofit

If we are to accept his word do you buy that

Posted 3 days ago.

Tiredofit

So Harry do you also accept this from the good doctor

Posted 3 days ago.

harryanderson

Why won't you give a straight answer?

Posted 3 days ago.

Tiredofit

Do you agree with his position here

Posted 3 days ago.

mythravere

"Co2.is a trace gas making up a very minute percentage of our atmosphere"

You are right. But our planet has pretty much had an atmosphere with a chemical makeup that stay the same for a long period of time.

That is until we started burning carbon based fuels in ever increasing amounts.

We know that in lots of cases life itself hangs by a thread. Too much of this or too much of that and things change some for the better others for the worst.

And so it goes with how our climate behaves when the chemical composition of our atmosphere is changed and those changes lead other changes. Like the heat trapping ability of our atmosphere is increasing.

Posted 3 days ago.

Tiredofit

Is this opinion also valid from him

Posted 3 days ago.

Tiredofit

Their excuse for the absence of warming over the past 17 years is that the heat is hiding in the deep ocean.  However, this is simply an admission that the models fail to simulate the exchanges of heat between the surface layers and the deeper oceans.  However, it is this heat transport that plays a major role in natural internal variability of climate, and the IPCC assertions that observed warming can be attributed to man depend crucially on their assertion that these models accurately simulate natural internal variability.  Thus, they now, somewhat obscurely, admit that their crucial assumption was totally unjustified.

Posted 3 days ago.

harryanderson

Do you accept that CO2 is a greenhouse gas?

Posted 3 days ago.

Tiredofit

There is not a thing wrong with it when put in perspective. It's his opinion

Posted 3 days ago.

Tiredofit

Myth you have some soul searching to do

Posted 3 days ago.

harryanderson

Are you saying you won't won't accept the evidence I provided? Yes or no? If no, why not? What's wrong with it?

Posted 3 days ago.
 
 
 
 

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