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harryanderson
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Thankfully, the anti-science propaganda campaign surrounding man-made climate change seems to have lost some of its effect.

Are you seeing storm clouds on the horizon? Two recent studies suggest that the latest anti-science campaign is following its forerunners--the propaganda campaigns attempting to refute science that tobacco causes cancer, that CFC's caused the hole in the ozone layer, and so on—into oblivion. Global warming denial seems to have climbed to a peak in 2010, and global warming acceptance is now climbing. This bodes well for rational public policy.

 
 

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harryanderson

Their influence will continue to decrease, as a new generation of Americans, who overwhelmingly accept the findings of climate scientists, grow up to replace the dying generation.

They really only have one route to victory--seize power and institute a dictatorship. I don't expect that, but I watch for the signs. Two of those signs are to demonize and shout down the opposition.

Posted 54 days ago.

harryanderson

I wouldn't worry about it, though. All the shouts of the counter climate change propaganda movement haven't stopped the facts. Nor can they. All the shouting has accomplished is revealing and marginalizing the shouters.

The rest of the world has turned its back on this tiny, vocal minority. 2/3 of Republican-leaning voters feel we should reduce our use of fossil fuel. Even the big oil companies, who formerly funded the counter climate change movement, have moved on and now accept the science, as I pointed out earlier.

Posted 54 days ago.

mythravere

Thats like complaining about someone for using a rock to hammer nails when you have a hammer in your hand.

Either help them out by letting them use your hammer or just shut the **** up!

Posted 54 days ago.

mythravere

Imagine if Jesus refused to explain why his way is the best way in light of all the people around him having false beliefs about what the creator was all about.

Tiredofit claims to have the truth but yet won't share that truth then complains all the rest of us are wrong and misinformed.

That makes a lot of sense.

Posted 54 days ago.

harryanderson

"This has turned into a game on here."

Yes it has, and the game is to discourage rational discourse. The latest technique involves moving your opponent's posts off the page with many short posts. It's the message-board equivalent of shouting down your opponent.

Posted 54 days ago.

Kendall78

"Since when is science over>? What he means is shut up, stop doubting"

So under your way of thinking, do you respect the Flat Earth Society?

Posted 54 days ago.

Kendall78

"I will prove man has no role in climate change."

Your positive statement came before anyone else on here. You are to prove your statement first and not weasel out of it by pretending anyone has to go first.

Posted 54 days ago.

Kendall78

"CAN ANYONE GIVE A SINGLE PROVABLE FACT SHOWING MAN IS CHANGING THE CLIMATE"

To you? No, because you won't accept anything that doesn't fit into your objective.

Posted 54 days ago.

mythravere

If I were in your shoes and I felt as threatened by the spectre of fighting climate change as you do.

I would be trying to change people's minds and make a difference for my cause!

But you aren't even in it for that.

Posted 54 days ago.

mythravere

This has turned into a game on here.

You will not provide anything that backs up your professed beliefs on this issue. Even though according to you they represent the truth.

And if you indeed do not want to see action taken on this issue you should be more than happy to correct those you accuse of being misinformed with said facts that again supposedly make you right.

But you will not do that.

In fact when I have brought that up in previous posts you ignored that little angel.

So I guess we know your motivations now. Or rather what they aren't.

Posted 54 days ago.

mythravere

The debate is over for people that look at the facts and see that what the climate scientists are saying is true.

On the other the debate is still raging for people like you.

People that have their position and will not acknowledge that facts that are contrary to their position.

Posted 54 days ago.

mythravere

Ok Tiredofit. If god exists where is he?

And as a bonus question. Can you prove that gods other than the one you believe do not exist themselves?

Posted 54 days ago.

Ohwiseone

This isn't going away tiredbrain ! Where does Faux get their "research" ?????? Who funds that ????? Who's agenda are they following ????? And most of all Who's agenda are you following ?Pretty easy so why do you delay ? Because you are obviously spouting the right-wings talking points so why not admit it !

Posted 54 days ago.

Ohwiseone

Here you go tiredbrain , research that is not funded by our government !

Posted 54 days ago.

Ohwiseone

The dependence on fossil fuel energy sources since the industrial revolution has undoubtedly shaped economic prosperity for the developed world. However, an unfortunate by-product of fossil fuel combustion is the emission of carbon dioxide (CO2), an important greenhouse gas that is known to influence long-term climatic variations through its ability to absorb infra-red radiation.

Human emissions of CO2 have resulted in atmospheric levels higher than any period over the last 20 million years. The continued emission of CO2 will lead to widespread climate change related impacts. ~~Climate Change Research Centre (CCRC) UNSW Australia, Sydney NSW 2052 Australia

Posted 54 days ago.

harryanderson

Since reducing our use of fossil fuels is desirable for a number of reasons, what do you think of the revenue-neutral carbon tax proposals?

Posted 54 days ago.

Ohwiseone

We have given you several and you refuse them , now please answer the question! Where does Faux get their "research" ?????? Who funds that ????? Who's agenda are they following ????? And most of all Who's agenda are you following ?Pretty easy so why do you delay ? Because you are obviously spouting the right-wings talking points so why not admit it !

Posted 54 days ago.

Ohwiseone

Those proportions come from a look at Fox News coverage of climate change in 2013, when UCS found 50 segments to examine for accuracy. Of those, 72 percent “included misleading portrayals of the science." The breakdown goes further than the network-wide coverage, delivering a sharp elbow to one of the Erik Wemple Blog’s favorite shows on cable news:www ,ucsusa. org/scienceorspin

Posted 54 days ago.

Ohwiseone

Still avoiding the answer aren't you tiredbrain ? Where does Faux get their "research" ?????? Who funds that ????? Who's agenda are they following ????? And most of all Who's agenda are you following ?Pretty easy so why do you delay ? Because you are obviously spouting the right-wings talking points so why not admit it !

Posted 54 days ago.

mythravere

The big problem with this issue is that well monied interests cast a significant amount of doubt on this issue.

Thats unfortunate because of people like tiredofit.

People like Tiredofit have taken that doubt and cocooned themselves in it and refuse to come out.

And I think it should be said that the doubt thats been put out there. Is totally unfounded.

Posted 54 days ago.
 
 
 
 

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